Häpu‘u (Hawaiian Tree Fern)

[geraldw3210]

here try this , ive purchased tree fern slabs from here real stuff and fair prices.

- Tree Fern Slabs #

[Ray]

Originally Posted by lepetitmartien

Now given the slow growth of all tree ferns, even if it's great with orchids, it'd be better to avoid such products for conservation reasons.

That is precisely why products like EcoWeb came into being.

Wild tree ferns were being over-harvested in the wild, and their relatively slow-growing nature makes farming economics "iffy" at best.



Ray Barkalow
firstrays.com

[Ray]

By the way, Häpu‘u is the Hawaiian word for tree fern. That does not mean if is actually FROM Hawaii, any more than keikies are all from there.





Ray Barkalow
firstrays.com

[geraldw3210]

well ray this is what she asked for and its her decision what she wants too use.

Ray im sure you have never ever done anything too harm the environment HUH??

[lepetitmartien]

But maybe our friend here needed some input on the consequences of her decisions.

Since the 19th century, orchid cultivation went thru a lot of changes regarding to potting mixes and supports. Some happened under ecological pressure just because even the small amount of cultivators itself frightened populations of tree ferns. And we moved on, for the common good. And we're still cultivating orchids.

Every little act counts. And inform persons is the first thing to do. No judgement, just know the consequences

[AnonYMouse]

gerald, thanks for your effort but like the earlier reply, that is not the type I'm looking for.

Well, my using the stuff is moot since I can't find it. The Smithsonian (easiest list to use) lists it as "Apparently Secure". Since I sit on the ground floor of the ivory tower, I will reconsider its use barring acquiring mounted plants from growers that use it. I've tried EcoWeb, hated it, use the remainder as very expensive pot drain sieves.

Since we use the scientific names for plants here, i should have said Cibotium glaucum.

Glass houses, people. Glass houses. Make sure you don't live in one. And since I don't know if any of you do, I'll rely on my conscience, not your words.

[Leafmite]

Some of the orchids I have been getting are mounted on tree fern. The old orchid books that I consulted from the library seemed to think it was the only worthy medium. Personally, I prefer red lava rock and LECA for a medium but when they come mounted, I usually leave them be. Tree fern, though, seems to like to shed...drives me crazy. However, my Haraella rectrocalla absolutely loves it.

[Ray]

Originally Posted by geraldw3210

well ray this is what she asked for and its her decision what she wants too use.



Ray im sure you have never ever done anything too harm the environment HUH??

I have no argument with your first statement, and my response was to offer an alternative. Nothing more. Your second statement strikes me as being a cheap shot.

None of us are perfectly "environmentally friendly." I'm quite sure that my use of the insecticidal "big guns" when the situation calls for it, falls in that category, but I am trying to move my culture away from those things, through the use of biological and botanical probiotics, preventives, and treatments.


Ray Barkalow
firstrays.com

[AnonYMouse]

The subject is HAWAIIAN tree fern. As stated earlier, the stuff Kawamoto (and apparently Carmela) uses for mounts.

It is very different from the more available tree fern (exoterra, kelly's korner, calwest tropical, repotme, etc). It looks like fiberboard, absorbs like a sponge, does not shred. It's great stuff.

[Leafmite]

I haven't been fortunate enough to see the Hawaiian stuff. I assumed that they were similar. I will need to Google it just to see what it looks like.

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I found this. It is a pretty tree. Maybe I will need to try to grow one.
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/pdf/OF-16.pdf