Lepanthes telipogoniflora issue.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

Your Lepanthopsis is so so happy there, so many spikes you have! Awesome. To be honest I have never even realized if mine teli's do this, I have a few and they are big and they have many spikes nonstop blooming. One of my Telipogonifloras is definitely much more crowded with other 3 in glass orb and I do not see much issues, but than again, I have never checked on this!

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

I had to give this one some thought. I think it is a genetic problem, probably brought about by cloning. I don't know very many people who have successfully hand-pollinated this orchid, and then are seed propagating them. I suspect that some of them floating around the market are clones, not seed grown plants.

I personally have never seen the one that I used to grow do this.

[DeaC]

Didn't you have a heat issue recently and a gentleman friend who took over when you were not feeling well? I'm not pointing fingers but...! I think the whole thing is amazing!

[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Heat should not really be an issue with this orchid at all. This orchid thrives in warmer climates. This Lepanthes grows lower in elevation in the wild than many of its other cohorts. Because this orchid grows in intermediate to warm temperatures, most people who grow Lepanthes tend to have fairly good long term success with this orchid.

[Ordphien]

Originally Posted by TOMMYMIAMI

Your Lepanthopsis is so so happy there, so many spikes you have! Awesome. To be honest I have never even realized if mine teli's do this, I have a few and they are big and they have many spikes nonstop blooming. One of my Telipogonifloras is definitely much more crowded with other 3 in glass orb and I do not see much issues, but than again, I have never checked on this!

Thank you! Twelve spikes!
How big are your glass orbs exactly?

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

I had to give this one some thought. I think it is a genetic problem, probably brought about by cloning. I don't know very many people who have successfully hand-pollinated this orchid, and then are seed propagating them. I suspect that some of them floating around the market are clones, not seed grown plants.

I personally have never seen the one that I used to grow do this.

These are cloned?
I was kinda hoping it was cultural. Maybe I should order another one and see.

Originally Posted by DeaC

Didn't you have a heat issue recently and a gentleman friend who took over when you were not feeling well? I'm not pointing fingers but...! I think the whole thing is amazing!

I did have an intense heat issue. And the fertiliser incident lol.
But it's been doing this since the beginning.
It's claiming most of my blooms.

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

Heat should not really be an issue with this orchid at all. This orchid thrives in warmer climates. This Lepanthes grows lower in elevation in the wild than many of its other cohorts. Because this orchid grows in intermediate to warm temperatures, most people who grow Lepanthes tend to have fairly good long term success with this orchid.

It's extremely heat tolerant I've noticed.
But this particular incident involved leaving the light on by accident, and an unexpected record breaking heatwave.

[TOMMYMIAMI]

I have the glass orbs from CB2 store, you can order them online. They are good size.

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[King_of_orchid_growing:)]

Originally Posted by Ordphien

These are cloned?
I was kinda hoping it was cultural. Maybe I should order another one and see.

I don't know for certain. That's why I said "I suspect".

I've seen photos of people with flasks of Lepanthes telipogoniflora online. I cannot confirm whether they were clones or seedlings, but having grown Lepanthes, I know a few things about them…

1. They are incredibly difficult to hand pollinate without magnification devices.

2. There is not a whole lot of seeds per capsule.

3. You need an intimate knowledge of where the anther cap and the stigmatic surface are. For Lepanthes, it's not quite so easy to tell where everything is, because their locations are often times hidden very well.

4. Floral parts can get damaged very easily when attempting to hand pollinate them if there is any slight use of excessive force.

If there are a few people writing blogs about flasking Lepanthes, with each flask containing a massive amount of them, I have doubts that they are seed grown. By flasks, I mean a small tupperware box in some cases. I have suspicions the ones in these blogs are cloned.

I'm aware that Ecuagenera has produced flasks of these, but it is unclear whether they are clones or seedlings.

I do know that the meristems are easy to locate. There's 1 at the base of each growth, and there's another one at the leaf axil, where the flower stalk grows out of. Lepanthes can frequently keiki out of the leaf axils.

Cloning makes more sense in speedy, large scale production of a miniature orchid where each pod/fruit would normally not produce a whole lot of seed.

The mutation you describe also brings to mind how cloned Phal hybrids also produce floral mutations by way of peloricism.

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure if your plant is a clone, but if it was, I wouldn't be surprised. It's hard to explain right, but all the pieces seem to fall in place, (to me).

Like I said, I've never seen any one of the Lepanthes telipogoniflora I've grown do what yours did before, and they had been subjected to warm temperatures and having the lights turn on in the bathroom at night.

[RandomGemini]

Would contacting the vendor reveal any answers about this plant's source? I wonder if the vendor would replace it for you, in the case that this turned out to be a genetic defect?

[Ordphien]

Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:)

I don't know for certain. That's why I said "I suspect".

I've seen photos of people with flasks of Lepanthes telipogoniflora online. I cannot confirm whether they were clones or seedlings, but having grown Lepanthes, I know a few things about them…

1. They are incredibly difficult to hand pollinate without magnification devices.

2. There is not a whole lot of seeds per capsule.

3. You need an intimate knowledge of where the anther cap and the stigmatic surface are. For Lepanthes, it's not quite so easy to tell where everything is, because their locations are often times hidden very well.

4. Floral parts can get damaged very easily when attempting to hand pollinate them if there is any slight use of excessive force.

If there are a few people writing blogs about flasking Lepanthes, with each flask containing a massive amount of them, I have doubts that they are seed grown. By flasks, I mean a small tupperware box in some cases. I have suspicions the ones in these blogs are cloned.

I'm aware that Ecuagenera has produced flasks of these, but it is unclear whether they are clones or seedlings.

I do know that the meristems are easy to locate. There's 1 at the base of each growth, and there's another one at the leaf axil, where the flower stalk grows out of. Lepanthes can frequently keiki out of the leaf axils.

Cloning makes more sense in speedy, large scale production of a miniature orchid where each pod/fruit would normally not produce a whole lot of seed.

The mutation you describe also brings to mind how cloned Phal hybrids also produce floral mutations by way of peloricism.

Like I said, I'm not 100% sure if your plant is a clone, but if it was, I wouldn't be surprised. It's hard to explain right, but all the pieces seem to fall in place, (to me).

Like I said, I've never seen any one of the Lepanthes telipogoniflora I've grown do what yours did before, and they had been subjected to warm temperatures and having the lights turn on in the bathroom at night.

Hmm... I got it from Seattle orchids, and they get it from ecuagenera. So maybe it's cloned.
I dunno where else to buy one though m

Originally Posted by TOMMYMIAMI

I have the glass orbs from CB2 store, you can order them online. They are good size.

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I suspected yours were bigger lol.

Originally Posted by RandomGemini

Would contacting the vendor reveal any answers about this plant's source? I wonder if the vendor would replace it for you, in the case that this turned out to be a genetic defect?

The plant is from Seattle orchids who got it from ecuagenera.
Which means in might be cloned

[AnonYMouse]

I thought each bud starts out independently then becomes fused.

So, they develop conjoined? Yeah, that would be genetic.