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Old 09-27-2018, 11:11 PM
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And I agree wholeheartedly. It is cruel to put your dog aside because it's inconvenient for you. And honestly ask yourself this:
How would YOU feel being put outside in a cage, away from any activity, or family?
Please take him to a no kill shelter-make sure it isn't one that only keeps them for a week or two then kills them!
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Old 09-28-2018, 09:45 AM
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I agree with the other posters here. Dogs are living, feeling creatures who have a strong need to socialize and belong to a family. Wild dogs have their packs, and our pet dogs consider their human families to be their pack.

Using cages, or crates as they are sometimes called, is a useful tool in the process of house-training a young dog, but they are not meant for a dog to live in or spend long hours all alone in, and leaving a dog in one outside all the time exposes them to the elements, to the heat and cold outside, and to insects and other pests.

Did you not know how big a St. Bernard would get? If this dog is too big for you, please, please, please, as already mentioned, give him up to a reputable dog rescue organization that will work to find him a family that can provide him a loving and happy home (not the local dog pound). Keeping him in a cage as you describe will cause him extreme mental distress and, most likely, physical or orthopedic damage from being confined in such a small space, being unable to move around for long periods. He may even cause serious injury to himself trying to escape.

If you are unwilling to rehome the dog and insist on keeping him in a cage outside, it needs to be much, much bigger. To be clear, I still believe it is cruel to sentence a dog to a life of confinement, but a good-sized pen that allows the dog to walk and trot around would be a tiny bit better than the small cage you linked -- and that is with the caveat that you still need to get the dog out of the pen frequently for exercise and human interaction.

I have worked with dog rescue for many years, and I have seen the effects of dogs kept in cages or chained up outside for most their lives. It causes mental distress and physical damage. I beg you to have compassion for this dog and do what's best to provide him the life he deserves.
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Johndick, it worries me that you have not responded. Have you already sentence that poor dog outside to a cage? Deserves better. Would you do that to a child?
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I need some advice regarding dog cage, what kind of dog cage will I need for my 5-year -old St. Bernard? I need to put him outside the house because there is no more space inside. I'm looking for other options like having this large dog cage which has a size of 54" L x 35" W x 45" H. What do you think of this cage?
Any cage for a dog needs to be tall enough for the dog to stand up without touching the top, be long enough for the dog to stand with neither nose nor hindquarters touching the front and end walls, and wide enough for the dog to turn around without touching the walls.

How much time during the day do you plan to have the dog spend in the cage?
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I need some advice regarding dog cage, what kind of dog cage will I need for my 5-year -old St. Bernard? I need to put him outside the house because there is no more space inside. I'm looking for other options like having this large dog cage which has a size of 54" L x 35" W x 45" H. What do you think of this cage?
Johndick, consider that your Saint Bernard, for which you have no more room, could be exactly what someone else is looking for. Giving the dog up to a no-kill shelter is a human act of kindness. Consigning a large dog to life outdoors in a cage is similar to keeping it in one of the "tiger cages" that some countries kept prisoners-of-war in; the depth of cruelty. If you can't provide a fenced backyard mixed with some life inside with humans, adoption out is the best answer.

The dog my family has now was given over to a no-kill shelter as a puppy when the owner decided he was "too much". He does have a strong personality, but we adopted him because (my wife especially) saw potential in him. After a lot of training, he has settled into being a great, intelligent, funny companion for our family. And sometimes, we actually howl like coyotes with him so he feels more connected to us, his "pack".

Please allow someone else to adopt him. It is the right thing to do.

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Old 09-28-2018, 10:36 PM
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I have to ask. Why on Earth do you want to keep this dog? Is it an ego thing? What is the point in keeping an animal who should live naturally on this Earth, in an enclosure where it is miserable, unable to live out its natural life, only to what feed your ego? Why are you doing this? Why would you even consider or anyone consider doing this. Honestly ask yourself the question why are you going to put an innocent animal Through Torture. A Life of Agony and loneliness. What does it do for you?
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:10 PM
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I wonder if we all aren't misunderstanding this situation? We don't have all the facts, only our assumptions from what little was said. While I'm in agreement with everyone, perhaps the situation isn't quite as we assume. As someone who has felt "piled on," I can understand why the OP hasn't responded. Perhaps, Johndick, you could clarify your situation?
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:22 PM
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Dolly you are so sweet and such a wonderful negotiator. The therapist in you comes out in your posts. You are a wonderful asset to the Orchid board. Just saying...
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Johndick, it worries me that you have not responded. Have you already sentence that poor dog outside to a cage? Deserves better. Would you do that to a child?
After reading Johndick's few brief posts, odd sentences, few replies back to OB, I'm left wondering if he's not exactly what he claims to be. Perhaps some kind of troll?
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Old 09-29-2018, 07:22 AM
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And that's possible too, He wouldn't be the first we've had. So, then the payoff is our reaction. Let's let him clarify or not. The point has been made, hasn't it?

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