Pet Ban HR 669

[Gin]

They are at it again , please post link on any sites you might go to . If this would pass it will be the end of keeping pets . Thanks Gin

YouTube - Pets in Peril (politicians gone wild) HR669

[shams]

Honestly?? People are doing this? I mean I know the release of exotic species is getting out of hand, but this is a little on the extreme side :P

[Gin]

It is for real , here is another site that I used , go to lobby center .
NAIA Trust | For the protection of animals, animal owners, and animal enterprises

[flhiker]

Before anyone passes law restricting ownership of certain pets. There needs to be common sense used. Animals that in no way are able to hurt the natural environment should be exempt. Here in S.Florida we are having a big problem with Python's that have been released in the Everglades, Also iguanas in the local neighbor hoods. One Python was so big it tried to eat a 7ft. Alligator. It was a vicious battle with no survivors. I personally have seen 10ft. pythons and 6ft iguanas. Both are making a bad impact on the native wildlife. I don't agree with the bill (it is way to extreme) and have signed the position. Something needs to be done and I don't know what the answer is I just don't think it is this bill. Thanks for the info.

[Gin]

I have read about the non native species causing trouble in Fl.
I agree if an animal is dangerous to people or the environment it should not be kept as a pet then later released . This bill is a one size fits all .. Gin

[dravenxavier]

There are a lot of other solutions that do not involve banning animals as pets. I would have no qualms over a permitting system that requires large and ecologically dangerous animals to be microchipped. I also think that one of the BIG problems is education. Perhaps mandatory fliers and warnings to be given out with animal purchases. I've done retail pet stores for years, and people just do not know what they're doing when they're releasing these animals. If all else fails, you can always find a store to take in your animal, or look online for someone who might want your animal. There are always places for them to go. Education, not a blanket ban, is the key, here.

EDIT: Now that I've watched the video, let me clarify a little on this bill. I'm into fish and reptiles as much as I am into plants, so I've been following this for a couple months now. This bill is basically set to split species into two catagories: allowed for import and trade, and not allowed. If the species is not allowed, then that's it. You can no longer import, sell, barter, or breed that species. If it IS allowed, then it can still be bred, sold, etc., but will now be considered "nonmailable matter". Which will shut down trade of that species outside of the local environment of the breeder or importer. For example, if you took the plant, or even just the orchid trade, and made it so you were no longer able to mail orchids, and could only pick up what you could find locally, how would that affect you? However, even with the species allowed, it's unlikely that the hobby will be able to support itself under these new regulations, and will most likely shut down. You will be buying your cat/dog supplies at Walmart, permanently.

[Gin]

That is the problem ,the allowed and not allowed list . I raise birds. Canaries and Alexanderines . None would be allowed if they have to be a native species .
I think there is more behind this bill then meets the eye. There are groups that feel (no) animal should be a pet .

[Zoi2]

Originally Posted by Gin

I think there is more behind this bill then meets the eye. There are groups that feel (no) animal should be a pet .

There is much more behind this bill and every other bill that comes up regarding animals: the billions of dollars HSUS and PETA pour into lobbying for the elemination of pets.
Joann

[april]

I have to chime in here. If I see another Beta in a miniscule globe (we're talking 3") I will go crazy. Another thing that bothers me is the fact that many parents let kids buy whatever they want on a boring Saturday and by the following week they are "over them" unfortunately this happens with hampsters, mice, fish, turtles,EVEN DOGS and CATS. How many forget to give their animals water, leave them in the sun, forget to feed them. Some are left in dark rooms and never see another living thing. If every owner was responsible then that would be another story but there are WAY too many irresponsible pet owners.

[dravenxavier]

That is a completely different "thing"...in my opinion, that comes down to parenting, and deciding what you think is best for your kid, and not giving in just because that's what he/she may want at the time. I don't have kids, but I've been doing the retail pet thing for a while, and the first thing I'll tell you is you are not getting your child a pet, you are getting yourself a pet that your child can enjoy!! It does not work any other way. I think it's good to have pets in the house...to teach kids to respect and admire these animals. I strongly believe that people do not care nearly as much about things that they can't experience personally. For example, if kids aren't exposed to snakes in a controlled environment, what's the first thing they do when they see one in the yard? Either pick it up because they don't know better, or freak out, usually to the snake's detriment. This is turning into a wayyyy longer rant than I intended! But to wrap it up, as far as things like bettas in bowls and such, that needs to come down to education, and responsibility on the part of the retailers. People are stuck in the habit of the "goldfish bowl" just like they are stuck in the concept of keeping turtles in little plastic lagoons with a tiny fake palm tree. Education really is key here.