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10-07-2021, 07:00 PM
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Which bells? Brugmansia?
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10-07-2021, 07:24 PM
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Yep, Sade has a gorgeous Brugmansia or Datura, can't remember which. We were going to swap seeds.
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10-07-2021, 07:38 PM
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The upright plant with flowers that hang down is Brugmansia. The low plant with flowers facing up is Datura.
Most of the time you need 2 different Brugmansia plants to cross pollinate and make seed. If there is another color in the neighborhood (a different clone, not a cutting from the same plant) she can take the pollen from one and put it on the pistil of the other.
Datura are mostly self-pollinating so you always have lots of seed. I have Datura wrightii throughout my garden, a very white form.
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10-07-2021, 07:41 PM
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Thanks ES, that's probably the answer then. Sade has Brugs and I have Daturas. Sade has no seed and I have millions!
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10-07-2021, 09:01 PM
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I have a tree full of flowers..mainly peachy-pink with an amazing fragrance, but I don't see any seeds as long as that white stuff in the leaves below the flowers are the actual seeds..  I though that white stuff was pollen and I was looking for brown seeds.
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10-08-2021, 10:11 AM
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You can propagate Brugmansia easily from hardwood or softwood cuttings.
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10-10-2021, 06:59 PM
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10-10-2021, 07:34 PM
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Don't be smoking that stuff! Causes Visions of the Emerald Beyond!
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10-10-2021, 07:47 PM
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Our native Datura wrightii opens well after dark, then closes the next day. This bud will open tonight.
They mature to spiny fruits. This one is just breaking apart to release the seeds.
This is a host plant for the tomato hornworm moth, Manduca quinquemaculata, common in North America. We have another sphinx moth, our native white-lined sphinx moth, Hyles lineata. I usually see caterpillars of this one on milkweeds and native four-o'-clocks (Nyctaginaceae.)
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10-10-2021, 07:55 PM
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Great ES - thanks.
That Sphinx Moth looks very like one I spotted back in May:
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