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Old 05-28-2016, 04:20 PM
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Hi all. A newbie and a first-time poster here.

I am having trouble identifying bugs I discovered in the humidity tray beneath my Phal. From what I was able to tell from searching online, they look a bit like a male and a female scale (or possibly mealybugs?).

Does anyone have an idea of what they are and how dangerous they are to orchids?

Sorry for the blurry pics but these suckers are tiny (~0.1") and not very photogenic.
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Old 05-28-2016, 05:39 PM
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St. Augustine Orchid Society - North Florida Orchid Growing is great reading material.
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Welcome, atanasg!

They could be mealy bugs. When they get wet their cocoon sometimes falls off. How long since you repotted your Phal? If quite some time, it would be worth repotting into new medium, and examining the stem, crown and roots very closely.
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Looks like mealies to me. Treating as soon as possible is essential and repeat in 10 days!


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The third photo looks like a mealybug.

First photo, the insect has wings, not a mealy or scale. Not sure what the second insect is.
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Second and third pics are mealie bugs, immature crawler stage or young adult, and adult in the typical sticky powdery protection. The first appears to have wings, possibly a fungus gnat.
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Wow, thank you all for responding! DeaC: thanks for the link!

Ok, mealybugs then. IIUC the treatment options I have are the same: a systemic insecticide (maybe some of the Bayer sprays with imidacloprid) or a IGR (looking at the Enstar AQ Insect Growth Regulator).

Does anyone have any experience with these? Which one would be gentler to the orchid?

Neem oil is out due to high temps (>85F) and alcohol+soap is out because the orchid is tiny and I can't reach everywhere (plus it already caused damage to one of the leaves as I tried it before).

What baffles me is that I can't seem to find any hint of these bugs on the orchid itself: I have been obsessing over it and scrutinizing everything with a magnifying glass but no visible bugs, no cottony white cover, no sticky residue. Is it possible that I am just not seeing the signs?

The closest I can think of matching this description is the powdery look of the roots during the last repotting (see pic). I took it to be a combination of the normal silvery substance that cover the roots plus some hairs sticking out seeking something to attach to. Am I misinterpreting?

As you can see, the phal is already stressed out having only four (soon three) not-so-great leaves and two (now three!) short roots left. It lost its older roots to rot during the repotting last week (estación seca: since you asked ). It seems to be recovering great so far and if it weren't for the infestation I would be fully confident that it would do well.

I don't have any experience fighting bugs though so now I am into an uncharted territory and worried about it again. Should I go for treatment right away or should I wait and give it more time to recover first?
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For mealy bugs or scale on a small plant, during warm weather, I submerge the entire plant in a solution of a few drops of dish soap in a liter of water. Just enough soap to make a few bubbles on the surface when you agitate the water.

Soak overnight, about 10-12 hours. This normally kills all the bugs plus their eggs, and does not damage the plant. The dish soap is necessary to break the surface tension of the water and prevent the bugs from hanging on to a bubble of air, through which they might breathe.
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Whoa, great find on the fungus gnat! I went by a drawing of a male scale bug in one of the St.Augustine Orchid Society's articles (argh, can't post links here!) but I see that the heads are different.

It seems like the gnats are the least of my problems now but I will see if I can get some sticky cards and check if any more of these buggers like to stick around (hah!)

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If you have not already done so, you should thoroughly clean any affected plant and repot into a clean pot, new medium. Fungus gnats hang around in medium that has partially decomposed and needs replacing. Cleaning the plant and replacing the medium also eliminates many insect eggs that may be hanging around.

You can try the soap solution soak that estacion seca suggested. If bugs come back (you should watch carefully for this), the imidacloprid products work well. I am not familiar with the growth regulator product, but if you look on the St.Augustine OS site, there is a table that lists common pesticides that can be used on orchids. Maybe that product is on their list?
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