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wintergirl 06-23-2015 11:08 AM

Wait until the roots are a silvery white, not green. When in doubt wait another day. It is better to under water than over water.

Tracer04 06-23-2015 12:03 PM

Ok now when I repot do I cut off the yellowing leaves or do I just let it shed them naturally


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wintergirl 06-23-2015 01:45 PM

The one with yellow on the tip, leave. The half broken one you can cut. Soak your scissors in alcohol before cutting. Then put cinnamon powder on the edge of the plant where you made the cut.

tarev 06-23-2015 01:57 PM

Sometimes, I just let the plant do its natural leaf die off, eventually it makes like a perforated line that makes it easy to remove the leaves. I normally would hasten cutting off if there are somethings growing on it that is spreading fast, which may be fungal or bacterial. Some would still try to apply or spray something to mitigate it or prevent further spread. It takes awhile for the plant to resume growing leaves, so I try to keep the leaves if still possible and let the plant drain all that it can from the old ones.

I would be concerned if the leaf trouble occurs on the new growth or from the crown, that would indicate to me that plant may be suffering from crown or collar rot, or something else.

Tracer04 06-23-2015 03:03 PM

Ok cool thanks everyone thanks for all the info all my media and extra pots get here tomorrow so I think I'll repot both of them tomorrow and if I lose the blooms not a big deal.


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wintergirl 06-23-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tarev (Post 759455)
Sometimes, I just let the plant do its natural leaf die off, eventually it makes like a perforated line that makes it easy to remove the leaves. I normally would hasten cutting off if there are somethings growing on it that is spreading fast, which may be fungal or bacterial. Some would still try to apply or spray something to mitigate it or prevent further spread. It takes awhile for the plant to resume growing leaves, so I try to keep the leaves if still possible and let the plant drain all that it can from the old ones.

I would be concerned if the leaf trouble occurs on the new growth or from the crown, that would indicate to me that plant may be suffering from crown or collar rot, or something else.

It's hard to tell but that 1/2 leaf almost looks like it has a black streak close to the base.

tarev 06-23-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wintergirl (Post 759453)
The one with yellow on the tip, leave. The half broken one you can cut. Soak your scissors in alcohol before cutting. Then put cinnamon powder on the edge of the plant where you made the cut.

I would do the same, half leaf already way too yellow anyways.

Tracer04 06-24-2015 01:39 AM

She took care of that leaf today it fell of when I picked her up to insect the crown and base to make sure I wasn't getting any rot. The lead on the other side has yellowed some more but the yellow on the third leaf has stopped so I guess that's a good sign also no signs of rot on the I guess it be the base of the crown. I really need an orchid anatomy lesson. Lol


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Tracer04 06-26-2015 12:04 PM

So I repotted the 2 phals last night the one was in great shape only cut out 2 dead roots. But the one that had the yellowing leaves she was a little ruff all the roots in the center of the pot were rotten. She was potted in bark on the out side but the whole middle was sphagnum. 😕All the roots on the edge of the pot looked pretty good. So I think there are plenty of roots to support the plant. What else can I do for her while she's recovering??


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tarev 06-26-2015 02:46 PM

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Nothing much I can think of at this point..just provide some air circulation too, a ceiling fan would be great...just be very patient. They grow at glacial pace at times:biggrin:

Oh I can show you some ways the new roots form..just to give you some idea how much air they really seem to like: not always like this, but it will do anything it likes:
This is my other Phal, Phal stuartiana 'Sogo'
Oops, sorry, photo lopsided, but as you can see, this plant decided it just wants its roots outside, aerial growing, hanging to the sides, it does not like to dig in to my media, so I am just letting it go.
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it may also start as a nubbin growth at the base of the plant
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or it may resume new growth on an existing root already
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