Frustrated with phal leaf issues

[The Orchidist]

thanks for all the input , I had tossed a few really nice noids last fall , thinking it was isolated , but usually 3 to 4 mnths of having them in my collection , 1 small pit turns into massive amounts , No other species in my collection has this , the only ones that do not have pitting and scars are my mini phals . which are offset to the larger specimens .

Last night i cleaned up the plant really well and decided to put this same phal which has sprouted new roots into a container and started it in S/H , going to watch closely and see if anything improves , perhaps change its location .
I was concerned it may have been my environment or some allergen in my home ......lol

[silken]

Originally Posted by camille1585

I'm fighting the same microfungus type thing, and there is no way to get rid of it it seems, I've tried everything I can think of.
I don't get my plants wet when I water, and they are well fertilized. I just despair to see new leaves growing, and they look fine for some months before eventually developing the pitting. Almost all of my Phals are affected. They bloom fine and have healthy roots, but are so ugly to look at. I'm ashamed to keep them in my living roon...

Sounds like my situation. If they are blooming and have awesome roots I don't think it can be a culture issue. A new healthy Phal didn't even have to be touching a bad one to pick it up. The solution was a clean sweep, disinfect repeatedly and wait and in the meanwhile grow something else. At least I had nice pictures of all the ones I lost.

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Originally Posted by Steve_Ljak

thanks for all the input , I had tossed a few really nice noids last fall , thinking it was isolated , but usually 3 to 4 mnths of having them in my collection , 1 small pit turns into massive amounts , No other species in my collection has this , the only ones that do not have pitting and scars are my mini phals . which are offset to the larger specimens .

Last night i cleaned up the plant really well and decided to put this same phal which has sprouted new roots into a container and started it in S/H , going to watch closely and see if anything improves , perhaps change its location .
I was concerned it may have been my environment or some allergen in my home ......lol

I tried cutting off the bad spots when they first appeared and treating with Physan. It may have slowed things down but that's all. Sorry you have this problem too. I still love Phals but I have had to almost turn my back on them. Luckily I love Cattleyas and some other orchids as well! Good luck with your Phals.

[The Orchidist]

Originally Posted by silken

Sounds like my situation. If they are blooming and have awesome roots I don't think it can be a culture issue. A new healthy Phal didn't even have to be touching a bad one to pick it up. The solution was a clean sweep, disinfect repeatedly and wait and in the meanwhile grow something else. At least I had nice pictures of all the ones I lost.

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I tried cutting off the bad spots when they first appeared and treating with Physan. It may have slowed things down but that's all. Sorry you have this problem too. I still love Phals but I have had to almost turn my back on them. Luckily I love Cattleyas and some other orchids as well! Good luck with your Phals.

I read your post and had a read of those links , its exactly what i have and now that i have had a closer look at a few others , they are all showing small blemishes similar to this one , i think its best i toss them all and start fresh after a clean sweep of the area
if it is airborn all phals i bring into my home will get this
rather than chance it , best to start fresh or stop collecting rescue phals altogether .
thanks for your input .

[camille1585]

Clean sweep is a good idea, but ouch is that going to be painful since I mostly grow Phals! I have a really nice collection of species and unique hybrids.... I hate to toss everyone in the garbage

[dbarron]

Camille, yet another reason to diversify...I try to practice that everywhere...ie not an outside garden full of roses (which were recently badly stricken here with Rose Rosette Disease). That way at least you don't lose everything at once.

[The Orchidist]

At least i have many other orchids to wait for ,specialy waiting for my brassias to give me a good show and Dens to pop



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[Aki_James]

Ouch that really sucks. I will have to keep an eye on my Phals then, like I said the last 2 new leaves on mine seem to be good, but I am still going to keep an eye on them just in case it wasn't a nutrient deficiency like I thought. I was yet to introduce any new Phals into my collection until this Saturday when I picked up some species Phals at the show, if they start to show signs of trauma I will know it's a fungal issue since deficiencies take time to manifest. I'm just hoping that other genera are not carriers that do not show the same symptoms. Research time!!!

[Joseia]

Wow, a very scary thread! My biggest fear is of a disease wiping out all my plants and having to start over. If I had to dump all my phals, that would just kill me. They are just now reaching blooming size!

[NYCorchidman]

I would say that is a typical symptom of potyvirus.
If it is valuable, I would send a sample to a lab for testing.

Do not share water with other orchids with this one. You will spread it.

[tarev]

Sorry to see the bad state of your Phal leaves.

Can't think of anything else to suggest, hope they recover as warmer weather returns.