Soaking in Phyton 27

[Pilot]

Hello all,

I have several neofinetia that have developed this gross brown rotting spots on their leaves and clearys didn't seem to clear it up. So instead I got some phyton 27 and mixed it and took the plants that showed actual rot and soaked them in the solution. In fact they're still soaking as I write this. The rest of my collection I sprayed down heavily with the remainder of the gallon.

First, is it ok of me to soak these plants that show clear signs of rot? Second, how long should I wait to apply the mixture a second time?

Thanks.


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[Ray]

Ryan, be very careful with Phyton 27. The active ingredient is copper sulfate, which, with overexposure, can be a very effective herbicide.

I have no experience using it on neos, but I do know what different plants react differently to it.

Hopefully someone wioth direct experience will chime in.

[WaterWitchin]

I've used it on numerous ornamentals, both in the garden and in the house. Always followed the directions, and watered well, sprayed foliage, then repeated one time, one week later.

Know that it's a copper-based treatment. It works well, for its intended purpose. It's not a good choice for anything with copper sensitivity, e.g., fish, crustaceans, etc.

You can stop soaking now.

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PS I do know you're not supposed to use it on dendrobiums. Someone with more knowledge than I would have to explain why.

[Pilot]

Originally Posted by Ray

Ryan, be very careful with Phyton 27. The active ingredient is copper sulfate, which, with overexposure, can be a very effective herbicide.

I have no experience using it on neos, but I do know what different plants react differently to it.

Hopefully someone wioth direct experience will chime in.

Ray, thanks for the input. Now that you mention it I do remember reading somewhere that it can be an effective herbicide. I suppose what's done is done now, though, as everything has been sprayed down. The few I soaked I imagine would be the most affected but if they are infected and they do die from this treatment perhaps it's for the best. I love these plants but they can be replaced.

Since you may read this again, I want to tell you my tolumnia in SH is doing very well. After a wonderful display of blooms, the group of fans doubled and though they are naturally small plant, the group is getting quite big! I continue to grow it in sh, of course. I wish I could get others to do it as well, though I can't say I have tried with others.

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Originally Posted by WaterWitchin

I've used it on numerous ornamentals, both in the garden and in the house. Always followed the directions, and watered well, sprayed foliage, then repeated one time, one week later.

Know that it's a copper-based treatment. It works well, for its intended purpose. It's not a good choice for anything with copper sensitivity, e.g., fish, crustaceans, etc.

You can stop soaking now.

---------- Post added at 08:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 AM ----------

PS I do know you're not supposed to use it on dendrobiums. Someone with more knowledge than I would have to explain why.

I hadn't heard about dendos... hmm... I only have two and they didn't get sprayed very much as they are separate from the infected plants so hopefully it won't cause them too much harm if any.

I have stopped soaking them right after I posted my original post. I had removed the bad tissue and allowed it to soak just a bit more. Now I'm not sure what to do with them but keep them as comfortable as possible until I can see if they'll survive the treatment and the disease.

[dounoharm]

I have used phyton in a greenhouse setting. I sprayed it several times a year as general maintanence and preventative....I did spray dendrobiums, but they spotted afterwards, so I tried to avoid them when spraying. soaking I would think might kill your plant if immersed for any length of time....as it is copper based, it can be an herbicide and thus not very good for long term exposure....good luck!

[Pilot]

Originally Posted by dounoharm

I have used phyton in a greenhouse setting. I sprayed it several times a year as general maintanence and preventative....I did spray dendrobiums, but they spotted afterwards, so I tried to avoid them when spraying. soaking I would think might kill your plant if immersed for any length of time....as it is copper based, it can be an herbicide and thus not very good for long term exposure....good luck!

To be clear I didn't soak my dends just my neos. The dends did get hit by the spraying but no spotting yet. I will not spray them again knowing this though.


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[NYCorchidman]

Isn't it a systemic stuff that is supposed to be absorbed into the plants and stay in & effective for a while? I just don't know how long.

Yes, you don't want to spray copper based chemicals on dendrobiums. I don't know what other genera react badly, but dendrobium is the one that is always warned against using copper based spray.

Keep us informed how the result comes out.
I hope the nasty rot stops.