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Originally Posted by orchidsarefun
I believe a non-scientist can reach a conclusion based on the preponderance of evidence and the likelihood of problems.
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"Likelyhood" is not fact. Nor is it proof of what is going on or what the problems might be.
The scientist nor the non-scientist can come to any one conclusion for CCD. No one has been able to definitely determine the cause of the deaths. Even most beekeepers are at a loss as to what is happening. Most of what I've read/heard/been told...they think it's a combo of issues at hand but no one is exactly sure what is happening. So, with that said, I don't think anyone can say one product or body or products is to blame for the issue.
FWIW...I wish it was just the one group of products that is causing the problem because then we could stop using those and the problem would reverse itself. The reality is...there is still far too much that's unknown and many people (scientist, non-scientist, and beekeepers) think the problem has more than just one root cause.
BTW - my info comes from a beekeeper... My sister is a beekeeper and honey producer...and she's in contact w/many other local beekeepers. She is a small operation but some of her contacts are very large operations. I may not have an scientific link on hand but my info comes from her as well as what her and her local colleagues have discussed as well as some of the article and info she's shared w/me over the past couple/few years.
If you'd like to read more about the other side of the controversy...google it. Just like you can find all the stuff you want when you google your side of this...you can find just as much on the other side.
I will repeat...there is still too much that we need to learn/uncover/figure out. I'm not taking the side of the pesticide but I'm also not ready to jump on the side of those pointing the finger at just pesticides...much less one body of pesticides. Personally, I am very interested to watch what unfolds over the next 2 years in the EU. Very interested.
I seriously hope it shows a complete turn around in the colonies...it would be awesome to find out it's this group of pesticides because then we have an answer. Plus, if it's just the one group of products then it's much easier to remedy than some of the other discussed culprits (malnutrition, climate change, mites, virus, GMO crops, or other pathogens...or a combo of any or all) I would gladly give up imidacloprid (or any other insecticide) to save the bees. Problem is...I just don't believe it's that simple.
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