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01-28-2013, 11:38 AM
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Thank you for the new pics - but I am still not sure. If that is the only white spots you have, just swab them with alcohol and keep looking for new ones - especially around the base of the leaves and where the "stem" enters the medium - it's hard to say from here!!!
Yes, Agdia strips are expensive - but again, I have to do small amounts at a time (shoestring budget and all that!!) and overall the cost balances out if you end up with a clean collection that you can enjoy for years. Or decades - ! A sick collection will eventually die off or just get so ugly that they are not (IN MY OPINION) worth having and investing fertilizer, etc. into.
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01-28-2013, 12:07 PM
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Thank you for the new pics - but I am still not sure. If that is the only white spots you have, just swab them with alcohol and keep looking for new ones - especially around the base of the leaves and where the "stem" enters the medium - it's hard to say from here!!!
Yes, Agdia strips are expensive - but again, I have to do small amounts at a time (shoestring budget and all that!!) and overall the cost balances out if you end up with a clean collection that you can enjoy for years. Or decades - ! A sick collection will eventually die off or just get so ugly that they are not (IN MY OPINION) worth having and investing fertilizer, etc. into.
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01-29-2013, 08:37 PM
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A good example of color break caused by virus. Plants grow very well but now always exhibit this mottling.
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01-29-2013, 08:53 PM
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A good example of color break caused by virus. Plants grow very well but now always exhibit this mottling.
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Thank you. Is this how it would progress if it is a virus in mine? I ordered test strips from Agdia. It looks like they will ship tomorrow morning. A UPS label has been created.
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01-30-2013, 01:04 AM
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No, that picture is one of bad cases.
Many do not even show symptoms at all, some show mild symptoms. It's very different case by case.
I'd hate to be the bad guy, but I'd almost bet your beautiful orange flowers are virused.
I know we all love your plants and want to wish the best even when the truth might not be what we wish.
So to be sure, have your plant tested.
That's the only sure way to know and have peace of mind.
I do not think it is cold damage at all.
Anyways, you have the test kits now.
Please let us know what the result comes out to be. curious to know!
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01-30-2013, 09:17 AM
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No, that picture is one of bad cases.
Many do not even show symptoms at all, some show mild symptoms. It's very different case by case.
I'd hate to be the bad guy, but I'd almost bet your beautiful orange flowers are virused.
I know we all love your plants and want to wish the best even when the truth might not be what we wish.
So to be sure, have your plant tested.
That's the only sure way to know and have peace of mind.
I do not think it is cold damage at all.
Anyways, you have the test kits now.
Please let us know what the result comes out to be. curious to know!
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I suspect it is too. It scares me because a friend bought it from me from the same store that I bought several from on the same day. She knew I have wanted and orange or coral cattleya. The plants are from the same grower. The scary part beyond them coming in on the same order the day before is that a lot of my orchids are from that grower including one that I posted a thread about in this forum asking if the other plant looked like it has a virus. Most of my plants are from this store, TJ., I have a few bagged from Lowes, some from planting myself at orchid classes, some gifts, some online and from flower shows. If this one is virused from the grower is it likely a lot of theirs are virused? I love the variety of their plants, number of blooms and price point.
The test strips are tracking to be delivered on Friday and I will test it right away.
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01-31-2013, 11:39 PM
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I pick up orchids at a grocery store or big box store as well. Most of them, I treat them as cutflower though: once flowers fade, they are out! simple as that. but rarely, I would keep them.
As you pointed out, the orchid providers for these stores (especially TJ, which is my favorite of them all for variety!!!) do not care too much about plant quality.
For them, it's money. They buy lots of clones, bring them out to bloom, then ship them out.
They are meant to be sold for just flowers.
I see lots of beautiful orchids at TJ, and I mostly buy these for flowers. They are cheap.
but even then, I don't buy any pretty looking orchids just because they are cheap and I will throw them away later any way. I worry that I might bring pest or disease into the house.
So I am very careful in finding what I buy. at least clean leaves and flower is what I go for.
I do find most of their oncidium intergenerics seriously sick. I rarely buy them.
Yes, quality is an issue. but hey, you get what you pay for.
With that said, I don't think these growers knowly throw sick plants in the market. It's just that selling flowering orchids (and as many as possible) is their main goal.
So far, I have kept about five orchids that I got from TJ, they at least look clean and grow and flower very nicely. I have bought quite a few from them. As I said, almost all of them go out once flowers are gone.
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02-01-2013, 04:30 PM
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Positive for ORSV in a matter of minutes. Toss it away   . Would you save the plastic pot with attached saucer and bleach and then soak in Physan or is it not worth it?
What is the etiquette with plants with viruses, do you gently tell the grower?
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02-01-2013, 05:08 PM
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Yes, I made a mistake and I am going to correct the statement above. It is only positive for ORSV. I have a
Onc. ornithorhynchus from a different vendor in Hawaii also postivie for ORSV. They were never near each other |
02-01-2013, 05:25 PM
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Well, it is confirmed now. Thank you for posting and sharing.
As for contacting the vendor regarding virused plants, some people are cool about it, some do not care.
But since your orange cattleya came looking terrible and now it is confirmed, I think you should at least get the refund for the catt.
They should never send flowers with such apparent streaks all over them.
After all, ORSV and CymMV are two most common viruses affecting cultivated orchids. not a big surprise but big disappointment for sure!
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