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01-31-2012, 03:39 PM
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not in the UK!
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02-01-2012, 09:05 AM
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not in the UK!
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No I couldn't find it either when I was last in Sainsbury's and had a look. I was going to look in some of the other UK supermarkets, where have you tried Starla (so I don't bother with them).
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02-01-2012, 12:03 PM
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I want to know about cinnamon extract because you cant get it over here. Is it leaf or bark extract and is there a company you think would ship it to britain?!
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I am not familiar with cinnamon extract, the term extract would imply that it is an alcohol solution that has had essential oils extracted into it by soaking cinnamon in the alcohol. The following web site though says that it is produced by steam distillation:
Cinnamon
If that is correct then cinnamon extract is pure cinnamon essential oil which is available in the UK:
Buy Cinnamon Leaf essential oil benefits uses UK
Cinnamon Essential Oil (Sri Lanka) - 10 ml (100% pure concentrated) - Essential oils A-K
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02-01-2012, 01:19 PM
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I've tried Sainsburys, Morrisons, Tesco, Holland and Barrett and Rosemarys. I don't think you can get it here to be honest!
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02-02-2012, 06:36 AM
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Thanks Starla, certainly doesn't seem to be one available in the supermarkets, so I think looking online is going to have to be the thing.
I know Ray makes his own mix with cinnamon steeped in something. I'll have to try and find where I saw that.
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05-24-2012, 02:34 AM
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Neem Oil is both effective and extremely safe (it's used in medicines and cosmetics), though it does have an odd smell which is reminiscent of french onion soup (not in a good way). I use it outside, so it's not that big of an issue for me.
The active insecticidal agent in Neem is azadirachtin, an insect growth regulator (essentially prevents insects from fully developing). It also has anti-fungal properties.
Cautions about exposure to sun/heat is applicable to the use of ALL horticultural oils.
Here's a link to the AOS article on Neem.
BTW, it's labeled as a "leaf polish" to avoid the cost of registering it as a pesticide. I was speaking to the head of a well-known plant nutrient company at the Tropical Plant Industry Expo in Ft. Lauderdale on Saturday who said that they had calculated the cost at aprox $4 million. (I did walk away with a free bottle of Neem!).
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Hello,
Sorry for bumping this thread, but i didn't want to start a new one.
I bought some Neem Oil and used it today, using the AOS recommendation: "Mix 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of neem oil and ½ teaspoon (2.5 ml) of a gentle, plant-safe liquid dish soap (as a spreader and sticker for the oil) to 1 quart (.9 l) of warm water"; I used water at room temp. instead of warm water.
I sprayed my cyms, phals and oncs early in the morning for preventive measures.
My question is the following, the Neem product that I acquired is from a reputable spanish company that specializes in organic agriculture. It was labelled, NEEM EXTRACT 30% SC. - Composition: 30% neem oil.
Does this mean that I use 5 ml as instructed or since it's 30% neem, or I should use 16.6 ml per quart of water?
Thank you all for your help.
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06-02-2012, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bud
before you resort to the big guns...try cheap home remedies first:
10 drops dish soap
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon extract
2 cups tepid water
spray the plant until soaking wet
make some more to soak the pot for 5 min to kill bug eggs
repeat for the next week then rest it for 2 weeks and repeat again
Neem oil a good bug killer and scares away bugs for as long as theres the stench that smells really awful that wont go away for days if you get it in your hands
a highly industrial chemical oil...so...
Neem oil can burn leaves if you put the plant outdoors
even if its just a shaded sun
it also attract fungus
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I guess, until now, I have never considered thinking of neem oil as the "big guns." What do you mean by "industrial oil?" Good, raw neem is a naturally occurring oil of the Azadirachta indica, or neem tree. It's commonly known as one of the first organic defenses, after beneficial insects/fungi/bacteria have failed. Organic life coexists with neem oil fully, as I have seen after inoculating with beneficial fungi, and spraying with neem and the beneficial continue to thrive days later (observed under microscope.)
I use it as a general preventive on all of my house plants. Good, cold-pressed neem oil, like Einstein oil, is marketed as a "plant polish" for legal reasons. However, the term is rightly put. After I spray my plants, they look beautiful in their shine and green tone.
As you said, plants can burn off it. The oil acts as a magnifying glass and fries the leaves. It's very important to spray the plants, and let them sit in a dark space with some air circulation until foliage is fully dry. This is completely unrelated to nutrient burn.
Bugs hate the stuff. It interrupts various stages of the life cycle in many insects. It is more affective with certain species than others. For example, a spider mite infestation can be completely wiped out with 1-2 applications. Whereas fungus gnats it only interrupts a very small window in their life cycle, so it must be re-applied religiously and you will often have survivors, regardless.. in this case there are much more affective means such as yellow stickies and beneficial nematodes.
As far as your mealybugs go, I would neem them down (but that's me.) I use the recipe of using a 1 gallon sprayer. i put in around 1/10th gallon of warm water, drop in 1 capfull einstein oil (raw cold-pressed neem) with 1 capfull of coco-wet (a wetting agent; you can also use a couple drops of dawn soap.) i stir this until dissolved and then fill with cool water. stir again and spray. shake sprayer every minute or so while spraying. use fresh and rinse sprayer after use or the neem will clog it up.
cheers
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06-02-2012, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by empiref
Hello,
Sorry for bumping this thread, but i didn't want to start a new one.
I bought some Neem Oil and used it today, using the AOS recommendation: "Mix 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of neem oil and ½ teaspoon (2.5 ml) of a gentle, plant-safe liquid dish soap (as a spreader and sticker for the oil) to 1 quart (.9 l) of warm water"; I used water at room temp. instead of warm water.
I sprayed my cyms, phals and oncs early in the morning for preventive measures.
My question is the following, the Neem product that I acquired is from a reputable spanish company that specializes in organic agriculture. It was labelled, NEEM EXTRACT 30% SC. - Composition: 30% neem oil.
Does this mean that I use 5 ml as instructed or since it's 30% neem, or I should use 16.6 ml per quart of water?
Thank you all for your help.
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you used the product correctly. if the plants burn, they didn't dry long enough before light hit them.
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01-18-2014, 12:08 PM
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I know this is an old thread, but I noticed the mention of cinnamon extract being difficult to find in the UK. I have a friend from there and she just happened to mention to me the other day that she has to go to a Nutritional Supplement store to purchase cinnamon extract for baking.
So, look for it in places that sell vitamins and protein powders, as well as other holistic remedies for your health. Cinnamon extract is believed to help diabetics lower their sugars when taken daily, so it shouldn't be too hard to find if you look in the right spot!
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01-20-2014, 09:29 AM
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Thanks for the tip. I'd thought of looking in one of those, but always forget when I'm anywhere near one
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