Summary of things to use?

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Shirley

Ross,

Thanks very much for your trouble but Ray is in Pennsylvania! Are you implying that he could ship it to Canada? I thought that, if it wasn't allowed here, that would not be possible.

Don't know the answer to that - only Ray does

[Lagoon]

Oooh not always -Ask Ray

clicky there ---> Welcome to First Rays Orchids

[EdinAZ]

Originally Posted by Lagoon

Mary and Grand, I use a 3% straight peroxide and soak for about 5 mins. Then , the 'chids get placed inside damp sphag. moss - I do not water for a few days, this gives the roots time to heal and close up.

Some sulpher prducts smell more then others, I suppose it has some to do with the strength. I use the safers sulpher, sure it does have some smell, but you might be surprised it's really not bad at all. Neem has much more of a smell and seems to last longer aswell. I dislike the scent of neem alot - but it does work very well.

Safers does have an already to use spray bottle, just shake and spray on. There is a consentrated bottle aswell, more money too - just add water. You may wanna try out the the ready mixed first.

The dish soap is used for spray down the leaves - 1/2 or 1 teaspoon per liter. Try to keep the soap off the roots as they can burn if the roots are not covered up well. Pretty much fried out my B.nodosa :roll:

Just wanted to clairfy the sulpher & alcohol - I do not mix these 2 as a solution together, they are used seperately. I don't want anyone building bombs, LOL!

Something new -- I've been recently be trying out something new with my 'chids - I'm excited about this one. Using fall planting bulb dusts - a mix of captain 5% (fungicide) and carbaryl 5% (pesticide) Great for leaf spots that have mealy or scale. It goes on like milky chalk stays put, smothers, dries up the insects. Cruel yet fun :banana:

Fanstastic for those deep quick spreading black marks you see on phals and for the use of crown rot ... it's so easy to use, mix with alittle water & just apply were it's needed I'm now using this paste mix on oncid bulbs that had soft rot - it's working great and the bulbs are slowly healing up. So far I haven't noticed any damage to the orchids - no burning on the leaves, bulbs or outside crown areas'.

:D

Your captan & carbaryl mixture sounds interesting. Doe it wash off when the plant is healed, or leave a residue like greenhouse whitewash?

Ed

[Lagoon]

Hi Ed,

You have to wash it off, it sticks kinda like chalk. It comes off very easy with a damped paper towel. I put it on then waited 3 days, removed it. Alot of healing took place, but I thought a few more days would be better. So I reapplied, I will take it off monday and post a photo, to give you an idea what has taken place. Hopefully all the nasty stuff is gone

BTW - I've got 2 spikes comming up from this orchid, I need it to live

[DavidCampen]

goodgollymissmolly, you seem to be spreading more than your fair share of misinformation. I am still laughing about your breathless warnings of an explosive reaction between permanganate and hypochlorite that exists only in your fevered imagination and now I stumble across this misinformation you posted about Physan 20.

Originally Posted by goodgollymissmolly

Ross, I'm sure your post regarding Physan 20 was intended for good purposes, but it is entirely incorrect. I've learned several things about message boards. One, they are the best source of misinformation ever invented by mankind. Secondly, it is best to ignore the misinformation because the originator or his friends will fight to the death to defend their misinformation and their right to believe it. However, I can't ignore misinformation regarding safety issues.

There is no doubt that Physan 20 is a useful broad spectrum biocide. Like most broad spectrum products it is probably less effective for most problems than a product intended to treat the specific problem at hand. However, I agree that one does not always know exactly what a problem is and a broad spectrum product is useful in such cases.

So far so good...problem is that you imply Physan 20 is organic (meaning naturally derived) and that it is safe to use. Neither assertion is even remotely factural. Read the label. Physan 20 carries the "Danger" label. This the strongest warning in the Danger, Warning, Caution hazard rating system. It is not to be used in a greenhouse containing edible products, it kills fish when put in waterways, and it is a danger to humans if not properly used. It is not even remotely "organic" if you mean naturally occuring or derived from nature when you use that term. Interestingly it is specifically against California law to use it on plants.

I am not an organic nut case. Actually just the opposite is true. I believe in determining the problem and using the most specific and least dangerous remedy available. I also acknowledge that broad spectrum products can be very useful. I have nothing against the use of Physan 20, but I hate to see it misrepresented to an entire message board as safe or organic. It is neither.

Let the hell begin!

Jim

[Brenda Aarts]

Originally Posted by DavidCampen

goodgollymissmolly, you seem to be spreading more than your fair share of misinformation. I am still laughing about your breathless warnings of an explosive reaction between permanganate and hypochlorite that exists only in your fevered imagination and now I stumble across this misinformation you posted about Physan 20.

Are you suggesting that Physan 20 is organic, or almost so? My understanding is that it's pretty potent stuff so I could see where GGMM was coming from. Please expand on your thoughts on this if you get a minute,,I'm curious now. Thanks.

[DavidCampen]

Originally Posted by Brenda Aarts

Are you suggesting that Physan 20 is organic, or almost so?

Only GGMM used the word organic. He misread what Ross said and then leapt to the conclusion that Ross had claimed it was organic. Or, perhaps GGMM did not misread what Ross said but was instead setting up a paper tiger via an indirection. Nevertheless, only GGMM used the word organic.

On the Physan website they make the statements that Physan 20 is "Enviromentally friendly", "Biodegradable" and "Use of gloves not required with diluted solution".

[Brenda Aarts]

Ok, thanks....I think I will still use sparingly as required as I don't like the smell!!!