several new phals with strange spots and colors

[imgliniel]

Hello all, I am hoping someone here can help me with this. I recently brought home a bunch of orchids on sale from home depot, and a few of them turned out to have some, shall we say, issues. So I hoping someone here can id or give me suggestions on how to treat this stuff. Until everyone has a clean bill of health they are quarantined away from my other guys.

The first issue is that I have one or two that has some yellowing of the leaves, and the leaves and some of the moss they are planted in have this weird pinkish tint, I have absolutely no idea what to make of it. Pics one and two)

The second issue is I have a plant displaying these small black spots on the underside of the leaves. Now cellophane was wrapped around these guys, and it was trapping water around the leaves, so that is probably a factor. (pics 3 4 and 5)

Third I have this one (pic 6) that has this giant brown/black spot, and I am not sure if it is fungal, or the lea was just damaged in some way.

And lastly (final 2 pics) I have one with a serious case of crown rot. I did not even notice it until Ipulled off that stupid celophane and the two top leaves came with it. The yellow is turmeric, I have started treating it with peroxide and turmeric. If anyone else has suggestions I am totally open to them.

I would be so grateful if anyone could help me here. Sorry if the pics are a bit blurry, cell phone, lol. My USB cord is missing so that is the only way I can get pics onto the computer

[Ray]

Those photos are just too small to get a good look, but I'd guess you're looking at the results of general abuse. I'll bet that if you repot them into something suitable for your conditions, and baby them for a few weeks, they'll all be fine.

[dounoharm]

crown rot is basicly fatal....all you can hope for is some basal keikis in a few months time....but you would be better served to save your money and buy good plants from a reputable dealer and not spend your time and money trying to 'save' damaged plants from the big box stores.....gl

[imgliniel]

thank you for the advice on the crown rot dounoharm, I will just see how it goes.

As far as the dealer suggestion, I like trying to "save" plants from big box stores. (I often call them my grocery store orchids, lol).

Firstly, because I buy my plants based on weather I am attracted to them or not. I don't care what retailer they come from, if I see something I like at albertsons so be it. I like to see them first hand and pick them up, see if I like that individual plant, not just that hybred/species/color. There may be 50 of the same plant, I will pick the one that "speaks to me" as it were, if that makes me weird then so be it. It is what makes tending my plants worthwhile, that I feel some connection to them. I like putting in the time to nurse them and see them recover and become a vibrant healthy plant, it is more rewarding to me then just brining it home, sticking it on the shelf and watering.

2nd, because I would still consider myself inexperienced I like having something that needs some work, it allows me to hone my skills and learn how to diagnose and treat problems. If I never had to learn that skill, when one of my expensive grower plants (which I will have some down the line when I have installed a greenhouse) get sick I will have no idea what to do and probably lose the plant.

Third, if I am going to learn and experiment I would rather do it with plants that cost me $6 instead of $50. Then if I do lose a couple, it is not such a huge loss of money.

Not saying growers etc are bad, but this is what I enjoy doing right now and I come here to get advice and help on doing it because like I said, I would consider myself new at this still. It isn't for everyone, but then again life would be really boring if we were all the same.

[Zoi2]

Here is my
Yellowing leaves are dying leaves, either naturally or possibly a root problem. What are your roots like?
I'm not sure about the pinkish tint, it looks more purple on my monitor and could be from sun or natural to the specific plant. I have a couple of phals with a purple tint to the leaves that have purple blooms.
The small black spots are probably water spots like you suspect. I would treat them with Gentian violet which is a bactericide and an antifungal agent.
The large black/brown spot looks like sunburn or mechanical damage to me.
Crown rot is a mystery to me...I have never been able to save a plant with it nor have I been able to get keikies.
I also get a lot of plants from the clearance racks at the box stores and have a lot of fun experimenting, Good Luck with your new rescues.
Joann

[Eyebabe]

I agree with Dounoharm; the crown rot is very far gone and fatal. These plants have the ability to infect your healthy ones. The usual culprit is Pseudomonas. You can try Phyton 27 but the safest place for them imo is the trash.
The others, fair enough, can be experimented with to further one's knowledge in caring for challenging conditions in orchids. Especially if down the road you encounter issues with a plant you have already become very attached to.
Hopefully you bargained for those plants. I have a friend who gets landscaping plants for their yard from the HD rescue method, but he pays pennies a plant by haggling that pennies is better than nothing from the garbage can.
If you paid HD's "sale" price I'd work on my negotiating skills for next time

[imgliniel]

hello all!

Eyebabe, could you please elaborate on one point, what are Pseudomonas?

As to infecting my existing plants, none of the orchids I bought this week have been put with my existing orchids (or anyway near them for that matter). I have the ones I have had for awhile in one room, the ones I recently purchased that appear healthy are in a 2nd room, and the ones I bought that appear to be sick are in a third room.

I repotted all the sick ones, and for the most part the roots look excellent. A few hollow ones or old dead ones, but not many, and lots of good robust ones. No mushy gooey rotten ones tthat I could find.

could the one with crown rot make the other only mildly sick ones worse? Or transfer the crown rot?Should I isolate this plant completely alone if I want to try and get a keiki from it?

[imgliniel]

Oh! and I steralize my tools between plants, and use a new set of gloves and news paper for each.

[imgliniel]

ok, you guys are freaking me out a little now, If I have them all in separate rooms can they still make my existing ones sick? I know better then to touch one of the sick ones then go touch my healthy ones without washing my hands thoroughly. Assuming I follow common sense don't spread the cold type of stuff, will they be ok or is it super super easy to spread stuff like this even with isolation and sterilization?

[Zoi2]

I don't think you have anything to worry about with all your plants separatd.
Joann