Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Members Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Today's PostsAre these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-10-2021, 04:46 PM
birdmcfarland birdmcfarland is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 2
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Default Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?

I’ve had orchids for 20+ years and very few problems but now I’m seeing these spots. Is this fungal?
Thank you
Melody
Attached Thumbnails
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?-c698eda8-b0c4-4d6a-a69d-901db529bde0-jpg   Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?-2561f612-1b33-48a2-8910-f76f69596cb2-jpg   Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?-38462f62-f88c-4737-941d-09229fe3c837-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-10-2021, 05:21 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,644
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Male
Default

Welcome to the Orchid Board.

That looks like bacterial. Go to the Web page of the St Augustine Orchid Society and look on the page for diseases.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-10-2021, 05:35 PM
Shadeflower Shadeflower is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,247
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Default

from what I have been reading in camille's guide the second picture looks like erwinia.

That should be cut away as it is a fast spreading infection.

I see signs of spider mite damage on the third picture.

Overall very common stress symptoms on weak plants.

Remove the leaf on the second picture.

Some might get plant treatment, like physan 20 to disinfect the growing environment.

But ultimately a stressed pant needs a good growing environment. If temperatures or light levels are not acceptable then the plants will grow more stressed and problems are more likely to occur.

So yes each plant has a problem and it is because they are in a weak state most likely so building up their defence needs to be the first step.

They are still salveagable so it was good to ask for advice.

If you need help figuring out what you can improve then ask away. Like I mentioned your light and temperatures are the most important.

What are you watering them with and are you using fertilizer? A small steady amount of fertilizer is needed to build up their strength.

Like K-sci pointed out recently I shouldn't assume you don't know how to care for them and don't get me wrong, I have these problems crop up from time to time also so to me pant nr 2 needs most attention but overall it is just a matter of treating for pests, feeding them right and keeping temps and light levels in the right ranges.

I'm sure others will have some further tips
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-10-2021, 07:18 PM
birdmcfarland birdmcfarland is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 2
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Default

Oh geez. Thanks so much for the help. I will respond fully tomorrow, short on time at the moment.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-11-2021, 06:58 AM
K-Sci's Avatar
K-Sci K-Sci is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2020
Zone: 8a
Location: Central Mississippi
Posts: 653
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by estación seca View Post
Welcome to the Orchid Board.

That looks...bacterial. Go to the Web page of the St Augustine Orchid Society and look on the page for diseases.
I agree, estación seca, that looks bacterial, and Shadeflower's diagnosis, erwinia, would agree. There are no good treatments for bacteria, once it is in the plant. The best course of action is usually to amputate the diseased areas, just as Shadeflower suggests.

There are translucent-looking areas spreading on some of the leaves. The translucent areas plus a bit more should be removed, in my opinion, to prevent the infection from getting into the bulbs.

That said, it isn't unusual for Stanhopea (for example) to get black spots similar to these on the leaves. When this occurs, it is often due to under-watering with water (or a pot) that has a high content of dissolved solids (such as hard water, softened water, or fertilizer). I'm wondering if that may be the underlying cause.

Diagnosing and treating diseases isn't my forte, so perhaps you or Shadeflower could comment further.

-Keith
__________________
+++++++++++

Last edited by K-Sci; 09-11-2021 at 07:06 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-11-2021, 08:47 AM
Shadeflower Shadeflower is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,247
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-Sci View Post
Diagnosing and treating diseases isn't my forte, so perhaps you or Shadeflower could comment further.

-Keith
Nah, Keith, diagnosing a plant illness is like diagnosing a fracture on a person without an x-ray machine.

We can only take educated guesses. Sometimes people try to help that really have no clue and just come up with theories but as long as you have a bit of experience then an educated guess is as good as one can get without having a plant x-ray analyser to tell you.

I think you are exactly what this forum needs but at the same time it can cause a lot of people to disagree with you and then you might end up with angry private messages that the people helping have to unfortunately deal with.

I think a lot of people will chose not to comment when it comes to illnesses because it is hard to know the right answer..

Last edited by Shadeflower; 09-11-2021 at 08:58 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-11-2021, 09:27 AM
K-Sci's Avatar
K-Sci K-Sci is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2020
Zone: 8a
Location: Central Mississippi
Posts: 653
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadeflower View Post
I think you are exactly what this forum needs but at the same time it can cause a lot of people to disagree with you and then you might end up with angry private messages that the people helping have to unfortunately deal with.
Argue with a real expert and they'll tell you why you've got it wrong. Argue with a person only posturing as an expert and they'll lose their minds (e.g. send angry messages).

-Keith
Attached Thumbnails
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?-fe2-jpg  
__________________
+++++++++++
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-11-2021, 09:45 AM
K-Sci's Avatar
K-Sci K-Sci is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2020
Zone: 8a
Location: Central Mississippi
Posts: 653
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal? Male
Default

This concerns me greatly. It and the surrounding area should be removed ASAP. This looks like a secondary infection.
-Keith
Attached Thumbnails
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?-delete-jpg  
__________________
+++++++++++
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-11-2021, 11:03 AM
WaterWitchin's Avatar
WaterWitchin WaterWitchin is offline
Administrator
 

Join Date: Feb 2011
Zone: 6a
Location: Kansas
Posts: 5,219
Default

The black spots, I don't think erwinia. Looks like bacterial brown spot to me. The one picture K-Sci says he'd be most concerned about... the brownish mushy part of leaf looks like secondary infection, maybe erwinia. Erwinia travels fast, and I'd get that leaf cut off ASAP.

Using a bacterial spray treatment or bacterial/fungal treatment would likely be helpful. Or I've had good luck with bacterial brown spot cutting off the worst leaves, parts of leaves with just a bit of spot, or putting a cinnamon paste (bit of Elmer's glue mixed with cinnamon so it stays put) on the spot after spraying with rubbing alcohol. But that's just what I do.

My bacterial/fungal X-ray machine is in the shop for repairs, so know this is just an educated guess looking at a picture. And that educated guess has nothing to do with a degree in anything, other than a bunch of plant growing.

---------- Post added at 09:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 AM ----------

PS Try not to splash water from plant to plant, and maybe up your air flow, if you haven't already done so.
__________________
Caveat: Everything suggested is based on my environment and culture. Please adjust accordingly.

Last edited by WaterWitchin; 09-11-2021 at 11:01 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-11-2021, 11:03 AM
Shadeflower Shadeflower is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,247
Are these black spots on various species leaves fungal?
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadeflower
from what I have been reading in camille's guide the second picture looks like erwinia.

That should be cut away as it is a fast spreading infection.

Remove the leaf on the second picture.
I thought I had mentioned that already but glad there are two more agreeing.

Now to wonder if the OP will find the time to post a follow up
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes WaterWitchin liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
20+, fungal, i’m, melody, spots


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Maxillariella elatior -- cause of yellow and black spots leaves? MJG Maxillaria Alliance 5 06-20-2020 06:51 PM
Black Spots Underneath Phal Leaves Kearneyweard Pests & Diseases 4 07-22-2016 12:42 PM
Large black spots on Twinkle leaves Reeses Pests & Diseases 2 05-19-2016 06:03 AM
Black spots on leaves, root health, and next steps Osmithy Beginner Discussion 8 05-27-2014 05:45 PM
Spreading black spots oncidium leaves Sahlabiya Pests & Diseases 2 07-18-2013 08:54 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:24 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.