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Old 11-17-2020, 11:43 AM
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I ordered Azamax on Amazon and had it shipped to me here in Portland Oregon about 6 months ago. I had not previously heard this warning. Maybe the issues have been resolved.

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Thanks so much for all the suggestions! I looked each of them up to see if they are available to me and unfortunately there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of good news.

Doesn’t look like I can find this available in Canada and I also stumbled upon some information about how it’s banned in Oregon because of pesticides not listed on the label:

https://www.oregon.gov/ODA/programs/...ies/AzaMax.pdf


Nope, looks like its use is very restricted here and I won’t be finding it in any local grow shops soon.


It seems that spinosad is currently under review by our government and not available for purchase.


Thanks anyway guys! I think I will give some Safer’s soap and isopropyl alcohol a shot. Wish me luck.
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Old 11-17-2020, 11:45 AM
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I ordered Azamax on Amazon and had it shipped to me here in Portland Oregon about 6 months ago. I had not previously heard this warning. Maybe the issues have been resolved.
Hmm I’m not sure. I didn’t do too much research into it, the warning notice seems to be from 2018. Or maybe the postal service didn’t catch it?
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:08 PM
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It's certified OMRI here in the states.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:08 PM
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I have another question - is it possible that the infestation is very small? I killed two thrips yesterday and I have been looking intently at the plant ever since (blowing on its petals and whatnot) and I don’t see anything else. Could I possibly have stopped the infestation before it spread (hopefully?) or is it likely there are some eggs waiting for me somewhere? Do they typically spend time in the pot or lay eggs there?
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:22 PM
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Research them. Lots of things don't work in them. Yes, you should assume you have eggs/infestation. My research indicated that systemics weren't terribly effective and the conflicting thought was that they didn't reach the flowers in sufficient quantity. However, you can have foliage thrips too. Azamax kills adults and is a growth regulator.

While you're researching, they're multiplying. Nothing, including soap and alcohol, is completely safe.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:12 PM
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I use Orthene for thrips but not sure I'd do that in the house. It works great but man does it STINK!
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Research them. Lots of things don't work in them. Yes, you should assume you have eggs/infestation. My research indicated that systemics weren't terribly effective and the conflicting thought was that they didn't reach the flowers in sufficient quantity. However, you can have foliage thrips too. Azamax kills adults and is a growth regulator.

While you're researching, they're multiplying. Nothing, including soap and alcohol, is completely safe.
I have been researching them nonstop since last night.
I guess I am being a little more hopeful than I should be. But, it also seems that my options at this point are very limited due to the fact that I'm in Canada where most of the mentioned products are highly regulated and also not being able to take the orchids outside to treat with something stronger.

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I use Orthene for thrips but not sure I'd do that in the house. It works great but man does it STINK!
I read about Orthene too. Maybe if the problem doesn't go away by Spring I'll take them outside and try it... that is, if I can even find Orthene in Canada.

Thanks again, folks!
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I have bought stuff from domyownpestcontrol.com that supposedly was not legal in California but they shipped anyway. (Same for Amazon...)I don't know if they're fussier about international shipments. If you can't find imidacloprid listed as such, there are some lawn treatments under brand names Merit or Marathon that you might be able to get, that contain it.
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I have bought stuff from domyownpestcontrol.com that supposedly was not legal in California but they shipped anyway. (Same for Amazon...)I don't know if they're fussier about international shipments. If you can't find imidacloprid listed as such, there are some lawn treatments under brand names Merit or Marathon that you might be able to get, that contain it.
Thanks! I'll have a look.

It's always a risk because Canadian customs can catch it and discard it. I was reading on another forum about Canadians trying to import Spinosad products and some were unsuccessful (never received the product, likely discarded at customs), while others happened to be able to receive it.

I have also noticed that many products on amazon.com that are available to US customers will appear as "currently unavailable" to me.

There's also the cost of shipping and all that - when you factor it in, it can become quite the headache. But, if the treatments I have at hand don't work then I won't rule out trying to purchase something online.

Edit: That website only ships within the US ... I used to be able to ship stuff to my post box across the border and pick it up.. but that's no longer an option in the age of Covid...thanks anyway.

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Apparently I was totally confused earlier when I said neem oil isn't sold in Canada. It just can't be marketed as a pesticide. But, I can definitely get some pure neem oil.
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