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07-20-2020, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Orchid Chikk Aussie Land
But IF it's a Virus, And it Spreads, It's not just one plant then, I would loose my whole collection ?
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If - not in your case - but some other case - somewhere else ------ an orchid happens to have a virus ----- it is said that the virus gets into other plants via say water/fluids transmission (eg. through open 'cuts'/wounds in leaves). Or ----- even though I'm not sure ----- ' maybe' through insect or animal transmission - sort of like if a mosquito feeds on a virus infected person and then feeds on another person ----- but I don't know for sure if that is a method of transmission for orchdis.
In any case, the nice thing is orchids don't sneeze or cough - so that another orchid can't get the virus into their eyes or lungs etc.
Orchid viruses probably have a hard time trying to survive themselves - as the rest of us organisms try to survive on this planet. One orchid happening to have a virus will probably not wipe out entire collections if we follow nice orchid growing/keeping procedures. Eg. isolate a plant (suspected of having a virus) - not your plant though - as I don't think it has a virus.
What can allow us to relax a bit is to just know that outdoor growing plants are generally expected to develop badge-of-honours from growing outdoors (insect bites, sun/uv exposure, etc).
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07-20-2020, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthPark
If - not in your case - but some other case - somewhere else ------ an orchid happens to have a virus ----- it is said that the virus gets into other plants via say water/fluids transmission (eg. through open 'cuts'/wounds in leaves). Or ----- even though I'm not sure ----- 'maybe' through insect or animal transmission - sort of like if a mosquito feeds on a virus infected persion and then feeds on another person ----- but I don't know for sure if that is a method of transmission for orchdis.
In any case, the nice thing is orchids don't sneeze or cough - so that another orchid can't get the virus into their eyes or lungs etc.
Orchid viruses probably have a hard time trying to survive themselves - as the rest of us organisms try to survive on this planet. One orchid happening to have a virus will probably not wipe out entire collections if we follow nice orchid growing/keeping procedures. Eg. isolate a plant (suspected of having a virus) - not your plant though - as I don't think it has a virus.
What can allow us to relax a bit is to just know that outdoor growing plants are generally expected to develop badge-of-honours from growing outdoors (insect bites, sun/uv exposure, etc).
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Thanks kindly for your reply,
Appreciate it.
Makes sense, what you have written 🙂
I am getting it.
Very true too.
I am a Pain Merchant 😩
And that didn't help the situation,
One bit . .
I think Or hope,
I've done most things Right.
I haven't reported any Orchids,
Although, some do Need it,
Come end of Spring this year . .
I have cleaned up many pots,
Always find something to do 😆I have a little work bench / table,
Which I use everyday,
I clean it before and after,
Repotting my plants,
So it's always Clean . .
I like the way you wrote
" Badges of honour "
That works for me 🙂
And yes I get the sunburn part,
As it looks Different.
Thanks again x
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07-21-2020, 12:24 AM
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What you displayed looks more like typical Cymbidium leaves. They get a little sunburn, leaf tip damage from blowiing in the wind and bumping into things nearby, and browning from us forgetting to water.
It is rarely possible to tell a plant is virused without testing. In other words, most plants that are virused grow and bloom just fine. People tend to test for virus when a plant isn't growing and flowering properly despite good care, or the flowers look strange. Very few people would test because of leaf spots that look normal.
Unless you're in the plant business, or you have a sick plant, many people would argue hobbyists should not be concerned with potential virus infestation. Normal care is to sanitize work surfaces and tools to prevent spread of anything between plants. After careless humans using sharp instruments on multiple plants without sanitizing in between, sucking insects are the commonest vectors for spreading viruses.
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07-21-2020, 02:02 AM
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I think everybody else covered everything, but I would just like to add that plants are living things, and as such are susceptible to physical damage just like people are. You don't worry every time you get a little bruise or a scrape. You should apply the same type of thinking to your orchids, especially if they spend time outside. Being exposed to the elements is bound to result in some mechanical damage, and there are bound to be marks on the leaves. It is very rare to see a pristine orchid with no marks at all on any of the leaves. Any number of benign things could cause the kind of mark you see on your leaf, and yellow leaf tips are quite common in Cymbidiums. Unless it spreads, or unless you get a LOT of yellow leaf tips and the leaves start dropping, I don't think you need to worry.
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07-21-2020, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by estación seca
What you displayed looks more like typical Cymbidium leaves. They get a little sunburn, leaf tip damage from blowiing in the wind and bumping into things nearby, and browning from us forgetting to water.
It is rarely possible to tell a plant is virused without testing. In other words, most plants that are virused grow and bloom just fine. People tend to test for virus when a plant isn't growing and flowering properly despite good care, or the flowers look strange. Very few people would test because of leaf spots that look normal.
Unless you're in the plant business, or you have a sick plant, many people would argue hobbyists should not be concerned with potential virus infestation. Normal care is to sanitize work surfaces and tools to prevent spread of anything between plants. After careless humans using sharp instruments on multiple plants without sanitizing in between, sucking insects are the commonest vectors for spreading viruses.
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Thanks kindly for your reply.
Appreciate it.
OK, understanding 🙂
I've just taken some more pictures,
I will Add them to my post.
You've been helpful 👍
Thanks again 🙂
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Originally Posted by JScott
I think everybody else covered everything, but I would just like to add that plants are living things, and as such are susceptible to physical damage just like people are. You don't worry every time you get a little bruise or a scrape. You should apply the same type of thinking to your orchids, especially if they spend time outside. Being exposed to the elements is bound to result in some mechanical damage, and there are bound to be marks on the leaves. It is very rare to see a pristine orchid with no marks at all on any of the leaves. Any number of benign things could cause the kind of mark you see on your leaf, and yellow leaf tips are quite common in Cymbidiums. Unless it spreads, or unless you get a LOT of yellow leaf tips and the leaves start dropping, I don't think you need to worry.
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Thanks kindly for your reply,
Appreciated.
Taken on board.
It makes perfect sense.
Just like I've said to my children when they were little 😆
And like I say to my Lil grandson,
" Ohh dear, Won't be the first or last time, you have a tiny graze, or bruise, All good "
I'm a Worrier . .
As well as a Warrior 🤣
Thanks again 🙂
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07-21-2020, 03:02 AM
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Here are some more pictures, I've just taken . .
As I said,
The rest of the plant looks healthy.
The flowers have opened beautifullly,
No run in it all 🙂
Thanks for All your replies 🙂
I really appreciate it 😍😍
And you have All, Given me some confidence back 😍
Thank you, Thank You.
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07-21-2020, 05:09 AM
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OCAL - fantastic flowers! The cym growing conditions there appear to be excellent. You can even choose later to put some pics in the cyms area of the board, or the 'orchids in bloom' area.
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07-21-2020, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Orchid Chikk Aussie Land
Glad you kept on with your Collection 😍
How good is it,
When you are Greated with all beautiful orchid flowers 😍😍
Come flower season 🙂
Although, sometime the wait,
For them to grow and open . .
OCD is a Shocker to live with 😢
But we learn to live with it.
And no, you're correct
Thanks again x[COLOR="Silver"]
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I've passed the 100 mark with mine but still waiting to see at least half of them flower, I have 10 in flower at the moment but it feels like nothing... The sense of achievement is definetely biggest the very first time you manage to flower a plant and get to see and even smell a new flower for the first time.
Can I ask was it ever mentioned what flower this was? I find it rather nice
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07-21-2020, 02:19 PM
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I've passed the 100 mark with mine but still waiting to see at least half of them flower, I have 10 in flower at the moment but it feels like nothing... The sense of achievement is definetely biggest the very first time you manage to flower a plant and get to see and even smell a new flower for the first time.
Can I ask was it ever mentioned what flower this was? I find it rather nice
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Wow, that's a lot of Cymbs in flower in July in the UK! And a 100 Cymbs? Do you grow in a conservatory? Greenhouse?
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07-21-2020, 02:27 PM
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Carebear2, I'd love to see photos of all those blooming Cyms! Really unusual to have so many in July in the north... And more on the way, I expect. Must be spectacular! Which hybrids? (I love names, would want to look for those)
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