Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Members Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Today's PostsPynuralianum, what went wrong? Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-16-2020, 04:15 PM
mross mross is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
Default Pynuralianum, what went wrong?

Hey all,
This is the reason I searched out the forums. This pynuralianum was doing great up to about 2 weeks ago. Then I found this. I have not changed the water routine (once a week) or the fertilizer (again once a week). I need new growth all was well until it wasn't. Any ideas?
Attached Thumbnails
Pynuralianum, what went wrong?-orch1-jpg   Pynuralianum, what went wrong?-orch2-jpg  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-16-2020, 04:32 PM
DeaC's Avatar
DeaC DeaC is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2014
Zone: 6b
Member of:AOS
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 3,177
Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Female
Default

Crown rot perhaps. I realize people do what works for them but could fert. every wk be too much,strength?
__________________
Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools because they have to say something. Plato
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-16-2020, 04:39 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,858
Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Female
Default

Question... when was the Paph last potted? These typically need it more often than a lot of other orchids, like every couple of years. If the roots are good, it may produce a new growth. But getting it out of the pot and finding out what might be going on down there may at least tell you about possible causes.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for DECEMBER 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-16-2020, 05:07 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,654
Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Male
Default

A number of things can cause that. But watering once a week in such a small pot is probably not enough, and could cause this. Paphs during growing season do better if they never dry out. Many should never dry out in the winter, either.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Clawhammer liked this post
  #5  
Old 06-16-2020, 05:41 PM
mross mross is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
Default

Thanks for the responses.
Roberta, this is the original pot a bought it in the nursery said it should be good for at least a year. Has not been quite that long yet. I had it about 6 - 8 months.
DeaC, I use less then called for since it's every week but it could be too much. I don't know.
estacion seca, I was afraid to overwater, I figured a little dry is better then root rot. I thought I kept a good eye on it but maybe not, or obviously not something went very wrong very quickly. That's what brought me here.
I have another one that is not doing well either I'll get pics. I t has leaves dying but did not grow. It flowered nicely for several months then seemed to not do anything for a bit then leaves strted to die. Everything I read said most peoples first inclination is to water more which usually is what is causing the problem. I tried to not do that but maybe in this case it was the correct response.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-16-2020, 05:48 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,858
Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Female
Default

Paphs do like to be kept on the damp side, since they have no pseudobulbs for moisture reserves. That, of course, contributes to their need for more frequent repotting. But just on general principles, taking a look at the roots will help you know what is going on. Be gentle though... a lot of Paph roots break quite easily. If they are brown and fuzzy, they're healthy. If black, not so much... (They do look a lot different than the roots of other orchids. That's reasonable, they're more like terrestrials than epiphytes and so have a different approach.)
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for DECEMBER 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-16-2020, 05:57 PM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,654
Pynuralianum, what went wrong? Male
Default

Paphs are different from many other orchids. They really suffer when dry during the warm season. Their roots look completely different from other orchids, as well. They are normally medium to dark brown, and often fuzzy. In a very chunky potting mix, which yours appears to be, you could water every day in warm weather. Always-moist media break down quickly, so many people repot Paphs in bark-based mixes every year, after flowering. Sometimes you can go 2 years.

A growth (often called "fan") will grow and produce leaves for a while. When big enough it may flower. After the flower spike from that fan is finished, will not continue growing, and will lose leaves as it ages and dies. With decent care a single fan seedling will push new growths before or after flowering, so the plant carries on.

I suspect your issue is underwatering. The flowered plant should make more new fans. I would unpot both plants and repot. The plant you showed may survive if the roots are still healthy. They will not look like Phalaenopsis nor Cattleya roots. After you repot, water so they never dry completely.

Paphs also require much less fertilizer than other orchids. Consider browsing the Paphiopedilum forum here on Orchid Board, accessible via the left yellow menu - click on Forums.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Clawhammer liked this post
  #8  
Old 06-17-2020, 02:47 PM
mross mross is offline
Jr. Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
Pynuralianum, what went wrong?
Default

I heard from the nursery I bought it from. he said crown rot. I have to be much more careful in watering, I did not know not to get water in the crown and on the leaves. Hopefully the roots are still viable, finger crossed.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
changed, fertilizer, pynuralianum, water, week


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Everything is wrong with my orchid... HELP! Xinjia23 Pests & Diseases 7 11-07-2016 12:46 PM
What is wrong with my Cymbidium? supersheep Beginner Discussion 9 06-17-2014 08:44 PM
New leaves no new roots, doing something wrong? Cattleya17 Vanda Alliance - others 4 03-31-2011 10:43 PM
Spike going the wrong direction, what can I do? camille1585 Advanced Discussion 19 03-17-2011 01:38 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:24 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.