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Old 02-26-2013, 01:37 AM
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Pond and plants look great - !
Did I read you right - you have goldfish that cost $800 each? I know that well-bred show-quality fish can go for much more, but I really hadn't thought of them as pond fish either! Don't blame you for not leaving them outside - here we have herons and raccoons that will "fish" at night - it would be my luck that they would get the best ones first!
Congrats on the pond set up - I have had a couple of ponds and while they were not much to look at (one was livestock trough) they worked just fine - there is something about having open water that just naturally calms a person isn't there? I would relax after work just watching the fish and to hear the water splashing - just seemed to drain the stress away.
Thanks for showing off - do it anytime!
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I went back to read the part about the $800 gold fish. I haven't heard of those breeds. I didn't know they could be that expensive! I have seen koi that were.

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That's a shame.... we get red all the time.. and lots of orange.
Does Santa Barbara Orchid Estate ship to Canada?
I hope you get to see them get real big too! I'd love to see a picture of your pond.
They probably would but I think I'll wait and see if I come across one someday. Shipping and papers can cost a fortune, and I will have to give up one of my others to make room. The white one can go.
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Old 02-26-2013, 05:46 PM
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Vandalover:
(sorry everyone - this is off subject, but only a little!) I know that I read an article in National Geographic years ago about Oranda goldfish being highly prized in Japan and China. They even do surgery on some of the most prized one.
I also had not heard of the variety that Ordphien mentioned, and after re-reading the post, she may have been saying that was what she paid for multiple fish. Anyway, they are obviously not the goldfish that I flushed as a child!
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:29 AM
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Vandalover:
(sorry everyone - this is off subject, but only a little!) I know that I read an article in National Geographic years ago about Oranda goldfish being highly prized in Japan and China. They even do surgery on some of the most prized one.
I also had not heard of the variety that Ordphien mentioned, and after re-reading the post, she may have been saying that was what she paid for multiple fish. Anyway, they are obviously not the goldfish that I flushed as a child!
Steve
Yes, I thought about that afterwards. He didn't say how many fish he bought.
I do know that the oriental peoples love their shows. Koi, succulents- all sorts of things.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:31 AM
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The mature flowers on some cyms do that.
That is a beautiful cym. My neighbour has given meone that looks like that but I'll have to wait until next year for it to bloom. Yours looks cheerful and sunny.
I think I need to paint my kitchen that colour.
I hope you're strange house is beautiful this 1. I'm really digging the color change. How funny I was just thinking of painting my guest room that color.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:38 AM
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Pond and plants look great - !
Did I read you right - you have goldfish that cost $800 each? I know that well-bred show-quality fish can go for much more, but I really hadn't thought of them as pond fish either! Don't blame you for not leaving them outside - here we have herons and raccoons that will "fish" at night - it would be my luck that they would get the best ones first!
Congrats on the pond set up - I have had a couple of ponds and while they were not much to look at (one was livestock trough) they worked just fine - there is something about having open water that just naturally calms a person isn't there? I would relax after work just watching the fish and to hear the water splashing - just seemed to drain the stress away.
Thanks for showing off - do it anytime!
Steve
Yes $800 each. I have nine goldfish total in an indoors tank.
Aside from the tosakins, the rest cost between $300 to $600 each.
But they are show quality fish.
The breeders often have ones that come out with good form and breeding but with nothing remarkable. These are often much more affordable. Actually my fish would be treated as mildly remarkable at best.
I was thinking of getting some of those. That normally cost between $30- $50 each.
You can actually get most of these varieties in pet store.
If you look hard and are patient they can get barges in that have very good form and breeding.
I do love watching the water on a hot sunny day it's really great. And the goldfish are always a delight. I've been trying to find a more shade tolerant water lily. It gets a roughly 4 hours a sign. Which isn't enough for most varieties.

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Old 02-27-2013, 01:53 AM
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Vandalover:
(sorry everyone - this is off subject, but only a little!) I know that I read an article in National Geographic years ago about Oranda goldfish being highly prized in Japan and China. They even do surgery on some of the most prized one.
I also had not heard of the variety that Ordphien mentioned, and after re-reading the post, she may have been saying that was what she paid for multiple fish. Anyway, they are obviously not the goldfish that I flushed as a child!
Steve
Totally not off subject.
Surgery can be needed sometimes.
My uncle had some truly prized koi that he's had surgery on. One fish cost him $250000.
Im a he by the way lol.
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Old 02-27-2013, 01:55 AM
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Yes, I thought about that afterwards. He didn't say how many fish he bought.
I do know that the oriental peoples love their shows. Koi, succulents- all sorts of things.
I'm from Japan originally.
I'm a mix of various European and Latino people's, my family is American, but I was born in Japan and moved here when I was 17.
I moved out of Japan when I was 11 but alot if it still stuck I guess lol.
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Old 02-27-2013, 10:14 AM
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Well, I love both cyms and koi. I have 8 koi.
Yesterday I went to Walmart because a neighbour said there were some nice cyms in. Unfortunately there still wasn't an orange or red one. I don't know why I have never seen either colour in Canada.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:13 PM
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Well, I love both cyms and koi. I have 8 koi.
Yesterday I went to Walmart because a neighbour said there were some nice cyms in. Unfortunately there still wasn't an orange or red one. I don't know why I have never seen either colour in Canada.
It's funny.
I've been hunting for white to no avail.

It's strange you don't see cymbidium in those colors.
I hope you do find one though. They really are pretty.

I love koi too but don't have the room.

I'm very much in debate over which goldfish to go with.
I can either go with the round bodied fancies, or the small torpedo bodied varieties.
You can't mix them because the torpedo body ones will bully the round ones.
The torpedo bodied ones for the most part look like mini koi.
I was thinking a mix of shubunkin, wakin (one of my personal favorites), jinkin, kinransin, and watonai goldfish if I went the torpedo route.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:47 PM
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I had a beautiful, big shubunkin a few years ago. It bred with one of my koi and produced some pretty offspring. My friend in Ontario still has 2 of them. I have heard that this cross will not reproduce. I only keep koi now because I want them pure if they breed.

The white cyms are common here. I am not fond of white after living in a rural area in a snow belt.

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