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04-17-2010, 04:55 AM
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Thanks Nic, glad to hear you put them outside. I'm pretty sure Heather (Hedge) does as well which is why I was thinking of doing it. Hope yours pic up, mine are all doing quite well just now... the one I was worried about has a spike and a new cane starting at the momment so I think it's doing OK
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04-19-2010, 06:47 AM
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Point of possible interest and relative to location within UK (and elsewhere more than likely).
Was watching QI the other week and it had something on it about the time it takes for Spring to travel up the length of the island. Taking this into consideration for putting Orchids outside, the further South you are the sooner you should be able to put them out.
I don't remember it being an extreme difference, rather a week to two or so between the Cornwall and Scotland. Have been trying to find the relevant data to confirm numbers but alas my search is fruitless thus far.
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04-19-2010, 09:30 AM
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Yeah, I've heard that as well.
I also know there can be more local differences. My parents are on a farm in the middle of nowhere and they find spring is about a week later for them than it is in the village about 3miles away. They notice this in the times of daffs and crocusses opening.
They think it is due to the various houses in the village protecting the gardens from cold winds, on their farm though there is nothing to stop the cold wind and spring is noticably later.
I towards the edge of a town with houses all arround so I don't think I'll the same problem as mum.
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04-19-2010, 09:48 AM
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Interesting about your parents Garden, I agree it must have something to do with how much protection the site gets.
I like to think of it as a Mexican Wave of Blooms up the country
Are you daring to put any of your beauties out at the moment or are the conditions not right yet?
Be interesting to see Location to Location, when's the best time for it. I'm still guessing late may/early June at the earliest for me.
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04-19-2010, 09:52 AM
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I put my dens out during the day on Saturday as well as my mounted Miltonia.
I brought them in at night though. I'm also still shutting up the green house every night even though it's unheated because I think it gives some prottection for the plants in there.
I'm still undecided if I can leave anything out yet. I don't think I will risk it, but may start moving them out ever day... I have to go out to open the green house evey day anyway so I may take some of the Dens outside at the same time.
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04-19-2010, 10:05 AM
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I'm guessing and hoping that they suffered no ill effects from it. Do you have a test subject? One that you will keep in over summer?
I thinking of investing in another cheap Den mutant or two, if I can locate any I like. Just so I can get an idea of effects on the plant. Though I must say you putting them out now and being Midlands based, may mean I can try this sooner than expected! Oh I hope so!
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04-20-2010, 08:51 AM
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I didn't have a test subject for Saturdays outing, but one of them had been out in full autum sun during the daytimes last year I found it needed that to start flowering.
They were all cheap NOIDs though so I'm not too worried about them... although they are all growing nicely just now.
I think my more expensive Den Startdust will stay in, it's also not a Den phal type so not sure what conditions it will like.
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04-20-2010, 11:20 AM
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Just looked that up Den Stardust and what a beauty!
Glad to hear that it seems to be "So Far So Good!"
And I''l have to keep that in mind about how you got yours to flower.
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Originally Posted by RosieC
They were all cheap NOIDs though so I'm not too worried about them... although they are all growing nicely just now.
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Thank goodness for Cheap Noids!
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05-24-2010, 04:38 PM
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With all the sun we got this weekend I went for it and put 2 Dendrobiums, the Sharry Baby, a Burr Nelly Isler, and another noid Oncidium outside... and they've all gone nuts!!! There are new roots, on everything and the noid Onc has some new growth which I expect will be a pseudobulb at some point! I kept them shaded most of the time, and spritzed them too, but all in all, I'd say it was successfull! I brought them back in for the night, but as long as this weather holds I'll be doing it again!
Have any of you been putting yours out?
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05-24-2010, 07:23 PM
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Some of mine have actually been out during the day since early May. The week with this weather I've left them out over night as well.
They have currently been moved to my green house as they were getting too much sun where they were but it is completely unheated and it's automatic window opens before I get up each morning and is still open when I go to bed.
I have put out 4 Dens, a Vanda, a mounted Milt and an Onc. Have not tried the Nelly Isler yet, had not thought of that one, it's only just stopped flowering so has been in my living room and I've not yet decided on a home for it.
I also have 2 Masda and 2 Pleione permenantly in the green house.
Oh and I've put the Cym out as well. That's not with the others, it's actually sitting in it's pot out amongst the permenant garden plants. It's in an outer wooden pot which seems to deter the slugs so far (I know they are arround as I have seen them on other plants). It's in full sun at least half the day if not more, but seems quite happy there... been there two weeks including this last week of really really hot sunny weather. It's showing no sign of sun damage and is growing like crazy.
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