Wild orchid can or cannot take

[MisterOrchidGuy]

Hi everybody.So I have been reading in the internet and found out that orchid from the wild will most likely to not survive in our house if we take it in the wild.For me thats nonsense, a joke
I have expirence in wild orchid since I was 9 cause sometimes I go to a river and found many wild orchid like bulbophyllum, phalaenopsis and some cattleya and slipper but they dont die, they even bloomed for me every year so I was still wondering why we cannot take orchid from the wild

[jcec1]

It's not just about whether the plants live or die when you take them home. Many plants do however die as they need specific conditions in which to grow, you may be lucky enough to have many orchids growing nearby, so may be able to provide similar conditions, but many plants are ripped out of the wild to be sent thousands of miles away only to perish. It's also about upsetting the ecosystem where they grow, other species may rely on the plants you have taken and without them they may also perish.

Taking plants out of their natural environment, just so you can have them at home is highly unethical and against the ethos of most people who are interested in the natural world.

I am going to assume you are naive, and not trying to troll.

[MisterOrchidGuy]

I am naive.Why is it bad, I dont take the whole plant I just take a division.The parent plant can prosuce more new shoots though

[Ray]

There is possibly the other detail that you're collecting epiphytes that grow wild in your environment, so when you relocate them, their environment may only be changed a little.
The naive orchids we see in the more temperate parts of the U.S. and Canada, however, are terrestrial, so are very attuned to living with the substrate chemistry and specific microorganisms in the soil for their survival. Move those, and the likelihood of survival is greatly reduced.
Not to mention the minor detail that it is illegal to do so, for the most part.


Ray Barkalow
firstrays.com

[MisterOrchidGuy]

Hi ray.our country has no rule wheter to take orchid from the wild but not from parks or conversation parks
At least not only me do that, orchid lovers do take some from wild

[Leafmite]

Ray is right. Our orchid society recently had a speaker that is an expert with our local native orchids (and we have a member who is as well). Some of the terrestrial orchids (Cyps, for instance) have symbiotic relationships and when you dig one up, it will most certainly die if you try to grow it elsewhere. The ones that are commercially sold usually originate from seed and are selected for a few generations for their ability to survive in 'normal' conditions.

Many orchids are stressed when they are moved from a different climate but, through years of selective breeding, the ones that are sold commercially are more able to withstand these adjustments. As you are not taking the orchids far and likely giving them the same conditions, there is likely no problem.

[No-Pro-mwa]

Originally Posted by jcec1

It's not just about whether the plants live or die when you take them home. Many plants do however die as they need specific conditions in which to grow, you may be lucky enough to have many orchids growing nearby, so may be able to provide similar conditions, but many plants are ripped out of the wild to be sent thousands of miles away only to perish. It's also about upsetting the ecosystem where they grow, other species may rely on the plants you have taken and without them they may also perish.

Taking plants out of their natural environment, just so you can have them at home is highly unethical and against the ethos of most people who are interested in the natural world.

I am going to assume you are naive, and not trying to troll.

I pick troll.

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Originally Posted by MisterOrchidGuy

Hi everybody.So I have been reading in the internet and found out that orchid from the wild will most likely to not survive in our house if we take it in the wild.For me thats nonsense, a joke
I have expirence in wild orchid since I was 9 cause sometimes I go to a river and found many wild orchid like bulbophyllum, phalaenopsis and some cattleya and slipper but they dont die, they even bloomed for me every year so I was still wondering why we cannot take orchid from the wild

See here you go changing your story once again. Now you have experience with both phals and Catts. I thought you were a newbie? Sorry I think your a troll.

[Subrosa]

The bottom line is the legality of the given orchid in the given place you're planning to collect it, and your own set of ethics. If you can legally dig up a sensitive terrestrial, you shouldn't have a problem digging up a large bucket of the surrounding soil to maintain it in. Then, just as when maintaining sensitive coral species, you put your emphasis of care more on maintaining the substrate. It can be and is done. Growing the plant in its native climate removes much of the difficulty. But it's certainly not an endeavor to be entered into lightly. Which is where your ethics come in. Every single plant in cultivation has its beginnings in wild collected stock. Knee jerk condemnation of the action while enjoying the benefits derived from the same action in the past smacks of hypocrisy. Know the law, know your abilities, and act accordingly.

[jcec1]

Originally Posted by Subrosa

The bottom line is the legality of the given orchid in the given place you're planning to collect it, and your own set of ethics. If you can legally dig up a sensitive terrestrial, you shouldn't have a problem digging up a large bucket of the surrounding soil to maintain it in. Then, just as when maintaining sensitive coral species, you put your emphasis of care more on maintaining the substrate. It can be and is done. Growing the plant in its native climate removes much of the difficulty. But it's certainly not an endeavor to be entered into lightly. Which is where your ethics come in. Every single plant in cultivation has its beginnings in wild collected stock. Knee jerk condemnation of the action while enjoying the benefits derived from the same action in the past smacks of hypocrisy. Know the law, know your abilities, and act accordingly.

Maybe it does seem hypocritical that I am growing progeny of wild collected plants and telling someone not to collect wild plants. But, according to his previous posts, this is a primary six schoolchild who comes on asking for basic advice, not someone who has experience in dealing with collecting plants for either preservation or conservation.

[wintergirl]

Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa

I pick troll.

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See here you go changing your story once again. Now you have experience with both phals and Catts. I thought you were a newbie? Sorry I think your a troll.

I agree, troll.