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08-30-2021, 03:36 AM
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NOID mini Phal
I needed some table flowers. I bought a very nice mini Phal at a supermarket for $12. It is of higher quality than most supermarket Phals I see.
It is in an outer ceramic container without drain holes. The inner pot is sturdy transparent plastic, with a nice well-ventilated inverted cone at the bottom. It is potted in medium bark, still nice and hard, and a few coir chunks, all in good shape. The roots are healthy. It could easily stay in this medium for another two years.
Instructions say to leave the plant in the outer container, and add 2 ounces / 60ml of water per week. I think this would work well for people growing in a typical home and who don't know much about plants.
The leaves were slightly wrinkled when I got it. I soaked it in water overnight. They became firm with the water. It has taken 3 days for the roots to become silvery in my conditions, out of the decorative container. The yellowing leaf was green this morning. I am not worried, because it is otherwise healthy, and it sat dry in a cool supermarket for a while. I will leave it in this container until it needs repotting, then move it to S/H.
It was grown by Westerlay Orchids in Carpinteria, California, an agricultural area between Ventura and Santa Barbara. Their Web site reveals they grow two million NOID flowering orchids per year for wholesale. I sent photos but they were unable to give me a name.
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08-30-2021, 09:15 AM
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The leaves were slightly wrinkled when I got it. I soaked it in water overnight. They became firm with the water. It has taken 3 days for the roots to become silvery in my conditions, out of the decorative container. The yellowing leaf was green this morning.
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Well, I've definitely learned something new today. I did not know that a yellowed leaf could turn back to green! The one in the photo doesn't look just a teensy bit yellow, either, it looks totally yellow. Amazing!
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08-30-2021, 01:12 PM
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Sorry, I meant it was green yesterday morning, and yellow by the evening, when I took the photo.
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08-30-2021, 02:52 PM
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Sorry, I meant it was green yesterday morning, and yellow by the evening, when I took the photo.
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Oops! I guess my brain wasn't fully awake this morning. When I first read that sentence in your post, it seemed perfectly clear to me, and that's why I expressed surprise, but now that you've explained what you meant, that makes perfect sense, too.
So I guess I can continue to rest safe in my long-held belief that yellow or brown leaves will not turn green again.
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08-30-2021, 02:59 PM
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I (mis)understood it the same way mountaineer.
I am sure ES will leave it in the media for 2 years now as that is what he has said even if the leaves all turn yellow so don't try to prove that a wholesale nursery does or does not use the best orchid media to save (not save) costs on their 2 million orchids ES. Orchid nurseries would rather make sure their plants thrive over making a couple million dollars more so I'm sure this one will last 2 years but if a further leaf turns yellow don't think you have anything to prove ES. I wouldn't trust a nursery but since they have shown you such good customer service its up to you.
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08-30-2021, 03:39 PM
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I've looked at a lot of commercial Phals at mass markets in the US. This one is in a higher quality pot, with higher quality medium than others I've seen. It has two spikes with lots of flowers in good condition. Phals in my conditions make leaves steadily so I'm not worried about losing an older leaf in transit. It will soon make another.
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08-30-2021, 06:43 PM
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Yes, that yellow leaf just looks like an old one whose time has come. Losing an old bottom leaf on a Phal
is just force of nature. The plant looks good.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by estación seca
I needed some table flowers. I bought a very nice mini Phal at a supermarket for $12. It is of higher quality than most supermarket Phals I see.
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It is in an outer ceramic container without drain holes. The inner pot is sturdy transparent plastic, with a nice well-ventilated inverted cone at the bottom. It is potted in medium bark, still nice and hard, and a few coir chunks, all in good shape. The roots are healthy. It could easily stay in this medium for another two years.
Instructions say to leave the plant in the outer container, and add 2 ounces / 60ml of water per week. I think this would work well for people growing in a typical home and who don't know much about plants.
The leaves were slightly wrinkled when I got it. I soaked it in water overnight. They became firm with the water. It has taken 3 days for the roots to become silvery in my conditions, out of the decorative container. The yellowing leaf was green this morning. I am not worried, because it is otherwise healthy, and it sat dry in a cool supermarket for a while. I will leave it in this container until it needs repotting, then move it to S/H.
It was grown by Westerlay Orchids in Carpinteria, California, an agricultural area between Ventura and Santa Barbara. Their Web site reveals they grow two million NOID flowering orchids per year for wholesale. I sent photos but they were unable to give me a name.
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Beautiful color patterns on that phal ES. Nice choice. I always feel good buying one of those noid ones from the grocery store. I feel like they offer interesting colors and I’m happy to be giving one a better home!
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