2017 Project Preliminary Poll

[rbarata]

Also, in case os Laelias I'm tempted to try one and see if I can make it grow between two rocks.
That would be interesting, kind of a mount made of rocks.

[charlesf6]

Originally Posted by Dollythehun

Very informative article. Thank you.

A like for reading it all.

[Dollythehun]

It's a slow day, Charles, cause yesterday wasn't.

[jkofferdahl]

Originally Posted by Salixx

I'll be honest that I have no real interest in the Brassavola. Slightly more interested in the Tolumnia, but not much. I have three I got last summer that have yet to bloom, so I do not know if I can bloom them, though it may be too early to tell.

I am up for a possible challenge with a rupiculous laelia, even if difficult. Of course, I like challenges. If the rupis are really too difficult, another Laelia group may be an option, such as the former Hadrolaelias, which are dwarfs and have many easy to grow species. Of course, we could broaden it even more to just Laelias and, if that genus is picked, offer up a few species.

I mentioned in the other thread about the possibility of a beginner/easy project plant and a more advanced one. It maybe still be an option if we can't decide.

I do think we have enough votes to start narrowing down to few options. It might be time for another poll with the top three groups, then work on selecting a species from the winner if laelia, or, going with one of the other two if they win. I think we need to move forward on this before peeps lose interest .

Anyway, that's my $.02

Too late. I'm dropping out of the possibility of this project and just coming up with my own.

It appears to me that two things are happening here. First, people want to grow a plant they WANT to grow, while the idea of the Project is to try something new. Second, once people see that their own choices aren't rising to the top they are looking to add to the list WHICH HAS ALREADY HAD ONE VOTE. I'd love to work with aplant along with others in the group but just have run out of patience with this absurdity.

[Salixx]

Second, once people see that their own choices aren't rising to the top they are looking to add to the list WHICH HAS ALREADY HAD ONE VOTE. I'd love to work with aplant along with others in the group but just have run out of patience with this absurdity.

I, personally, don't think the aggression is necessary or warranted. I am sorry you are frustrated with the process. Please keep in mind that others may still be interested in trying something they may not like just to do something with the group. I fall into that category, while not really interested in the Brassavola or Tolumnia, I would go with one or the other if it is the group's choice.

Nobody has taken a leadership role, I'm not surprised that things are disorganized. As I already said as well, we have a clear top three. Things are getting somewhere, if rather slowly.

This was a preliminary poll, I will add. It was never meant to be the final poll, but to narrow down a long list. It has served this function. We have a three-way tie, so, aside from another poll, I'm not sure how to break this.

[rbarata]

It appears to me that two things are happening here. First, people want to grow a plant they WANT to grow, while the idea of the Project is to try something new.

jkofferdahl, I'm sorry you got upset with the way this thread took. Obviously, everybody wants to grow what they want to grow but I haven't seen in any post anyone saying "if it's not this one, then I don't want".

Second, once people see that their own choices aren't rising to the top they are looking to add to the list WHICH HAS ALREADY HAD ONE VOTE.

I'm not sure if you aimed this one at me but that's ok.
My only choice was Laelias, which is one of the three finalists. And as far as I understood, we were allowed to vote in more than one (which I din't, not only because forum doesn't allowed me, but also because I don't see anything more that could seduce me).
I've only sugested to add a new plant because that was mentioned before in previous posts without any fuss about it...so I thought it could still be a possibility.

Anyway, I think it's time to give another step forward if people think it's ok.

[jkofferdahl]

Originally Posted by Salixx

I, personally, don't think the aggression is necessary or warranted. I am sorry you are frustrated with the process. Please keep in mind that others may still be interested in trying something they may not like just to do something with the group. I fall into that category, while not really interested in the Brassavola or Tolumnia, I would go with one or the other if it is the group's choice.

Nobody has taken a leadership role, I'm not surprised that things are disorganized. As I already said as well, we have a clear top three. Things are getting somewhere, if rather slowly.

This was a preliminary poll, I will add. It was never meant to be the final poll, but to narrow down a long list. It has served this function. We have a three-way tie, so, aside from another poll, I'm not sure how to break this.

That wasn't aggression. Not even close! I'm typically grumpy and terse, admittedly and as usual, but if I become aggressive it's really bad.

I was like you, in that I was willing to try something new because it would be a learning experience; now that I'm giving up on this I've decided to set up a mini-garden of nothing but miniature orchid species, and have ordered lights, a table, and plants for this. I want to learn about new plants.

And yes, we had a clear top three and then others tried to add new plants to the list. C'mon, man. That's like having a vote for President, disliking the results, and demanding a new vote with added candidates. I expected to vote from the three top candidates but this has simply become an absurd burden to even think about.

[u bada]

Well, hopefully we'll hear more from others... takes time to figure out best one for all's interests and conditions and such... obviously not everyone has to participate. I only had time for one last year myself... thought it would be fun to be more involved with a project this year...

Rupiculous laelias are challenging I can promise... they need full light, dry cold winters, need to dry out between waterings, grown often in rocks, but getting them established in rocks is another story... seen them grown in bark... anyway, if everyone is interested why not go for it, but with how slow growing they are I'd anticipate that being the orchid of the next 4 years LOL

Ok, so someone voiced out brassavolas, and well they do need a LOT of light...

maybe scrapping current list and starting a new preliminary might be worth doing (if not rupiculous laelias)?

... or Hadrolaelias would be great- pumila, praestans, dayana, all lovely and temp tolerant and prefer a little less light than other cattleyas...

[FairyInTheFlowers]

It's apparent that there's not a lot of support for a single project as of now. There's obvious reasons that a project can be difficult to get off the ground. It has to be a plant that everyone is interested in and easy to grow for everyone interested. I think the ongoing forum issues did some damage to the regular member count. I think that if we wait a bit, for both the forum to stablise and member count to return, we can give this another go. It's true that this thing is a bit disorganised because there was no clear leader. I tried to fill that spot, but I've been hit with a massive depressive swing as of late, and that has kinda impacted my ability to organise things on this end.

[Dollythehun]

I agree the OB issues didn't help. I think this is a good decision, Cody. I hope you will feel better soon.