My new mini phalaenopsis :) was told its a species any one know what one or if it is?

[KultureShock]

Hello again, i went down to my local flower shop yesterday and asked if i could put this Mini phal that i'd been watching for a few weeks on hold for a couple weeks, and the owner just gave it too me said it was sick anyways and he knew i would take care of it, and to just give him a baby once i've tissue cultured it.

So i just thought i would share some pictures with everyone
And a little size comparison with my other phal so you can see how tiny it really is.
Also i was told that they don't sell Noids at there shop and was wondering if it were true and if so does anyone know what type of phalaenopsis this is?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Kevin Disher
KultureShock

[RosieC]

I could be wrong, but to me it looks like a fairly standard white NoID Phal. Especially if he couldn't give you a name.

Bear in mind that even if it does have a name it could be a hybrid not a species. A NoID is simply an orchid with no identification so if you weren't given a name then it is a NoID.

There are hundreds of registered phalaenopsis hybrids as well as all the species and if it originally had a name it could be that many of them look pretty similar so would be very difficult to say which it was even if you were 100% sure it had a registered name.

On top of that there are probably thousands of unregistered hybrids. Ones which have been bred and never given a name, possible not even had their parents recorded when they were bred in the mass market (or bred from ones also not registered). There are soooo many of these that you are almost guaranteed to get look alikes, which also look alike with registered ones but actually have different genetics.

So, unless someone recognizes that this is the white species which is the parent of many of the white hybrids, or unless the shop can actually give you the name, then it's very unlikely you will ever get a name. (I don't know the fine details of the species gives a lot of the look to the standard white phal hybrids, I'm just aware there is one).

But don't worry about that... they are just as pretty and worth saving without a name as with one Most of my Phals don't have names.

[KultureShock]

Originally Posted by RosieC

I could be wrong, but to me it looks like a fairly standard white NoID Phal. Especially if he couldn't give you a name.

Bear in mind that even if it does have a name it could be a hybrid not a species. A NoID is simply an orchid with no identification so if you weren't given a name then it is a NoID.

There are hundreds of registered phalaenopsis hybrids as well as all the species and if it originally had a name it could be that many of them look pretty similar so would be very difficult to say which it was even if you were 100% sure it had a registered name.

On top of that there are probably thousands of unregistered hybrids. Ones which have been bred and never given a name, possible not even had their parents recorded when they were bred in the mass market (or bred from ones also not registered). There are soooo many of these that you are almost guaranteed to get look alikes, which also look alike with registered ones but actually have different genetics.

So, unless someone recognizes that this is the white species which is the parent of many of the white hybrids, or unless the shop can actually give you the name, then it's very unlikely you will ever get a name. (I don't know the fine details of the species gives a lot of the look to the standard white phal hybrids, I'm just aware there is one).

But don't worry about that... they are just as pretty and worth saving without a name as with one Most of my Phals don't have names.

Thanks Rosie! I really would not care at all if it was a Noid, i had my eye on it for a few weeks simply because it was so beautiful and vigorous. I will go ask them when there not so busy if they can dig up the name for me just out of curiousity.

One quick question, all of the buds on one branch of the flower stem have blasted they were like that when i got it and i was just wondering if it would be ok to cut it off and use the nodes for tissue culture or do you think it would cause more buds to blast.

Thanks again!

Best regards,
Kevin Disher

[RosieC]

Ahh, now that question is one you will get different answers to depending on who you ask.

If it's dries/goes brown then cut it down, that bit's easy. But if it stays green you can either cut it down or leave it. I tend to cut them down (but not always). Some folks like to leave them because it is possible that it will flower again, or grow a keiki. Personally I think the flowers from new spikes are bigger and there are more of them, where old spikes just give a few smaller flowers, that's why I usually cut them.

If you do cut the spike cut it right down at the base as close as you can without damaging the leaves.

The thing NOT to do is cut it just below a node... which is what some people advise. This forces a side spike in many phals (though not always) and can actually force them when the plant does not have enough energy. Leaving a spike (only cutting off any dead bits) lets the plant choose if it wants to grow a side spike and flower from that spike again. The same goes for cutting the spike right back which leaves the plant to choose when to produce a new one.

[vjo]

Hi Kevin, I dont think it will hurt it at all to cut that branch off. You should probably put a little cinnamon on the cut tho....Jean

[KultureShock]

thanks alot!

[chidlove]

It looks a tad like the primary hybrid Artimis. [P.amabilis x P. equestris] Is it scented at all?

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...s-crossed.html

[KultureShock]

Originally Posted by chidlove

It looks a tad like the primary hybrid Artimis. [P.amabilis x P. equestris] Is it scented at all?

http://www.orchidboard.com/community...s-crossed.html

it has a very faint sweet/floral scent when its under bright light.

[KultureShock]

and your right it looks pretty much identical to [P.amabilis x P. equestris]

[FairyInTheFlowers]

I doubt this is anywhere near the primary Artemis. I think the callus is a little to blunt and shield shaped to be pure amabilis crossed with an equestris.