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06-04-2011, 09:06 PM
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I know it is great that there are volunteers and it could be a hell of a job. At the same time I feel being too passive and self deprecating about it may not help address the problem. You can be assertive without being conflictual. The fact that the plants were damaged does not mean they were badly packed by you bob.
So better to say what you feel.
At the same time you can not expressely blame others too much if you were not present. it could have been an accident or negligence or a mix of both.
If they are sunburned that sounds like negligence.
Today i was riding my bike and a cab drove too fast 2 close dodging the traffic. I had a road rage episode. He was condescending and not apologetical, and I regret my reaction.
Yet you can't be always passive. People will not learn by their mistakes. We all make mistakes and sometimes it is OK to be reminded of that
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06-04-2011, 09:17 PM
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I know it is great that there are volunteers and it could be a hell of a job. At the same time I feel being too passive and self deprecating about it may not help address the problem. You can be assertive without being conflictual. The fact that the plants were damaged does not mean they were badly packed by you bob.
So better to say what you feel.
At the same time you can not expressely blame others too much if you were not present. it could have been an accident or negligence or a mix of both.
If they are sunburned that sounds like negligence.
Today i was riding my bike and a cab drove too fast 2 close dodging the traffic. I had a road rage episode. He was condescending and not apologetical, and I regret my reaction.
Yet you can't be always passive. People will not learn by their mistakes. We all make mistakes and sometimes it is OK to be reminded of that
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thanks for your input....
i agree, i dont want to just be passive, but i also dont want to create a bad rep. for myself, as im young and fairly new to the society. never-the-less, something will be said, via email. i just need to think through what im going to say, so that i dont end up regretting it.
i dont know what to do! ha, my thoughts were that asking how i can improve on my part might help cushion it when i tell them that im not happy
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06-04-2011, 09:41 PM
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better assertive than passive aggressive or wishy washy.
you can be assertive without being conflictual.
people receive more respect by being assertive. you will not get respect by being passive.
it is partly your fault for not having been at the show taking your stuff with you, so you can blame yourself for not having taken full responsibility of your plants. But someone committed negligence or had an accident. You do not need to make them feel guilty but have someone feel aware that such things should not happen.
Well better not be part of a group of people that does not show respect to people that speak up.
Better not be part of a group where you have to be passive.
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06-04-2011, 09:44 PM
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im just afraid to be the "complainer" i guess. but i see your point, and it is a good one. thankyou!
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06-04-2011, 09:56 PM
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dude - just email them some before and after photos and put "WTF?" in the message and wait for a response. otherwise before your write them your orchids will be ready to be divided...
well kind of kidding but if you wait too long then better not write anything. life goes on,
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06-04-2011, 10:57 PM
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Just email them and say something along these lines, 'hey, when my plants were returned, I noticed some weren't in very good condition. I was wondering if something might have happened? Included are some before and after pictures so you can see what I mean. If there is some way that I can prevent damage like this in the future when lending my plants for the displays, please let me know. I was so disappointed! Thanks very much, Bob'
nice, polite and expresses how you felt. The response will tell you how to proceed. If you want to soften them up a bit, you can thank them for giving youR plants a chance to win. Attacking people is very tempting but it doesn't really solve anything. Telling people about a problem, however, often helps to solve those problems in the future. Good luck!
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06-04-2011, 11:12 PM
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dude - just email them some before and after photos and put "WTF?" in the message and wait for a response. otherwise before your write them your orchids will be ready to be divided...
well kind of kidding but if you wait too long then better not write anything. life goes on,
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that one made me ;laugh out loud. i honestly considered writing that! although im unsure if they would know what it means.
i was planning on emailing them tomorrow
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Just email them and say something along these lines, 'hey, when my plants were returned, I noticed some weren't in very good condition. I was wondering if something might have happened? Included are some before and after pictures so you can see what I mean. If there is some way that I can prevent damage like this in the future when lending my plants for the displays, please let me know. I was so disappointed! Thanks very much, Bob'
nice, polite and expresses how you felt. The response will tell you how to proceed. If you want to soften them up a bit, you can thank them for giving youR plants a chance to win. Attacking people is very tempting but it doesn't really solve anything. Telling people about a problem, however, often helps to solve those problems in the future. Good luck!
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will do! but the problem is i dont have before pictures of the leaves. i have them of the blooms, but not of the leaves. and the leaves are the parts with sunburn or necrotia. so not sure what i would do there.
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06-08-2011, 12:52 PM
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here is what i sent.....
Hi, ?????
when my plants were returned from the CPOS show, I noticed most
weren't in very good condition ( some flowers are gone, some are
sunburnt, etc). I was wondering what might have happened? If there is
some way that I can prevent damage like this in the future if i do
decide to lend my plants for displays, please let me know. I was so
disappointed! i'll be honest, i probably wont send my plants to shows
when i cant help setup and tear down. that being said, i will try my
hardest to be able to help setup and tear down in the future
Thanks very much, BOB
their reply.....
Hi BOB,
I am sorry for the condition of your plants. It is obvious that the conditions in m greenhouse are not the same as you have lovingly given to them. They should have gotten home much sooner, but I just didn't have an opportunity to do so. I understand your disappointment.
Again sorry for your concerns,
?????
just thought you all should know what happened.. thanks for your help!
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06-08-2011, 01:34 PM
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at least you got a polite reply ...
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06-08-2011, 01:37 PM
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yep thats really all i could ask for anyways
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