Interesting thread; it may also be the case that Fred is flasking out of house and additional replates are made available at the nursery wholesale level--most labs have language in their terms stating what happens in the event of overrun/overplates [the usual default is destruction of plant material, but it's left up to the hybridizer]; it could also be something as simple as nurseries swapping 'extra' flasks--John has a lot of interesting things that he's working with/on; it would be reasonable to assume that hybridizers would make their overrun available for trade to each other before selling them to the public [most hardcore Cymbidium hobbyists I know will 'shop' around their prime divisions to other hardcore hobbyists before offering them to the general public for sale...and most hybridizers I know fall in the hardcore spectrum somewhere...

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