Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Members Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Today's PostsPrepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-21-2022, 02:56 PM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 14,926
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Male
Default Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices

I've been putting some of my former procurement manager skills to work.

Wholesale fertilizer prices had a moderate jump (12-14%) at the end of last year. Those increases were primarily the result of three factors:
  • Increased energy costs (especially natural gas pricing) for the manufacture of nitrogen and nitrogen fertilizers.
  • Shipping costs - it used to cost $2000 to $2500 to ship a container from Europe to North America, now it is $10,000 to $15,000, or even more.
  • China stopped exporting all Ag fertilizer salts last fall (as an example, China exports 40% of the urea worldwide), just at the time when Northern Hemisphere farmers start acquiring fertilizer salts for the spring planting.
In January, most producers felt that there would be upwards pressure on fertilizer salt pricing until the end of the first quarter, and then prices would stabilize because of reduced demand.

However, notice that there has been no mention about the war and subsequent boycott in this, so far. That throws three more factors into the equation:
  • If the war continues to cause energy prices to go up, then fertilizer prices will continue to go up with them.
  • Russia and the Ukraine are large exporters of nitrogen fertilizer (urea, ammonium nitrate, etc.). The loss of those exports will cause all nitrogen fertilizers to increase in price.
  • Finally, Russia and Belarus are the #2 and #3 exporter of potassium chloride, which is needed for potassium nitrate and monopotassium phosphate (MKP) production. Hopefully, there will not be a shortage of KNO3 and MKP at this time, as both Israel (Haifa) and Chile (SQM) are also exporters of KCl), but we can expect the price will still go up.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 4 Likes
  #2  
Old 03-21-2022, 04:35 PM
DirtyCoconuts's Avatar
DirtyCoconuts DirtyCoconuts is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2019
Zone: 10b
Location: South Florida, East Coast
Posts: 5,838
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Default

so time to invest in mineral futures?
__________________
All the ways I grow are dictated by the choices I have made and the environment in which I live. Please listen and act accordingly
--------------------------------------------------------------
Rooted in South Florida....

Zone 10b, Baby! Hot and wet

#MoreFlowers Insta
#MoreFlowers Flickr
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-21-2022, 04:56 PM
camille1585's Avatar
camille1585 camille1585 is offline
Administrator
 

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: middle of the Netherlands
Posts: 13,750
Default

There is absolutely no end in sight to the spiraling price increases, and I didn't realize that even fertilizers were affected.

Sky high gas prices are just the tip of the iceberg unfortunately. It was really painful to pay 2.30€/L last time I filled the car (to put it in US metrics, that's over $10/gal) and it doesn't seem like it will get better any time soon.
__________________
Camille

Completely orchid obsessed and loving every minute of it....

My Orchid Photos
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes Clawhammer liked this post
  #4  
Old 03-21-2022, 06:28 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,313
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Female
Default

We can be glad that orchids don't need much fertilizer! I suspect that we'll all spend a lot more to fuel our cars than to feed our orchids.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for JULY 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-22-2022, 12:27 AM
Leafmite's Avatar
Leafmite Leafmite is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Zone: 5b
Location: Ohio
Posts: 10,877
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Default

I think I am good for a while...I have Hollytone for the camellia, strawberries and blueberries, a large box of citrus fertilizer for the citrus and rainforest plants, Ironite for the cinnamon tree, liquid fertilizer for the hydroponics, air plant fertilizer for the airplants, Osmocote, a general fertilizer, and an organic fertilizer for everything else.... I'm good.
__________________
I decorate in green!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-22-2022, 08:10 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 14,926
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by camille1585 View Post
It was really painful to pay 2.30€/L last time I filled the car (to put it in US metrics, that's over $10/gal) and it doesn't seem like it will get better any time soon.
Here, we bitch and moan when gasoline reaches $4/gal (~0.95€/L).
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-22-2022, 11:33 AM
Dimples Dimples is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2022
Zone: 8b
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 875
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Default

Prices are around $6/gal in my area. I can't believe people are still driving 80+ mph on the freeway.

For those of you with outdoor in-ground plants, urine diluted 1:10 +/- makes a great fertilizer. Avoid salty foods the night before and the day of. It's free, water-soluble, plant-available, you know exactly what's in it, and it's locally sourced. Plants love it.

Before you say yuck, there are urine diversion programs around the world where farmers contract to collect urine from their community (often from an apartment complex or large building with special plumbing) and use it to grow food. Nutrients are nutrients!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-22-2022, 01:26 PM
Roberta's Avatar
Roberta Roberta is offline
Super Moderator
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Zone: 10a
Location: Coastal southern California, USA
Posts: 13,313
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Female
Default

For fertilizer, I bought a 25 pound (11 kg) bag of MSU Cal-Mag fertilizer from SVO 3 or 4 years ago (when I put in my RO system). I keep it in a sealed bucket, it stays nice and dry. At the rate that I'm using it, will probably last most of the rest of my life. Similar to my pesticide stash... will also probably last longer than me.
__________________
Orchids teach patience!

Roberta's Orchids (Visit my back yard)

See what orchid species are blooming in Southern California(New page for JULY 2024)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-22-2022, 02:20 PM
SG in CR SG in CR is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Northern Costa Rica
Posts: 281
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices Male
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray View Post
In January, most producers felt that there would be upwards pressure on fertilizer salt pricing until the end of the first quarter, and then prices would stabilize because of reduced demand.

However, notice that there has been no mention about the war and subsequent boycott in this, so far. That throws three more factors into the equation:
  • If the war continues to cause energy prices to go up, then fertilizer prices will continue to go up with them.
  • Russia and the Ukraine are large exporters of nitrogen fertilizer (urea, ammonium nitrate, etc.). The loss of those exports will cause all nitrogen fertilizers to increase in price.
  • Finally, Russia and Belarus are the #2 and #3 exporter of potassium chloride, which is needed for potassium nitrate and monopotassium phosphate (MKP) production. Hopefully, there will not be a shortage of KNO3 and MKP at this time, as both Israel (Haifa) and Chile (SQM) are also exporters of KCl), but we can expect the price will still go up.
I grow oranges and the fertilizer prices have been killing me, they're up about 280% from 2020 here in Costa Rica. I only bought about 40% of the fertilizer I would have normally in 2021 expecting that by June 2022 things would come back down to normal-ish prices. I can get away with it for a single year. But this year I need to buy a normal amount again, regardless of price. Despite an increase in the price of everything I buy, orange prices are still nearly the same as last year. If the fertilizer prices don't drop back down or the orange price doesn't hike up at least 50% I'll be losing money next year.
Farmers are having a rough time of it pretty much everywhere. We've been taking the hit because food prices so far haven't risen much. But if fert prices don't drop soon you can expect a big spike in the cost of food this year.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 2 Likes
Likes estación seca, DirtyCoconuts liked this post
  #10  
Old 03-22-2022, 02:39 PM
Dimples Dimples is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jan 2022
Zone: 8b
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 875
Prepare for Higher Fertilizer Prices
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SG in CR View Post
Farmers are having a rough time of it pretty much everywhere. We've been taking the hit because food prices so far haven't risen much. But if fert prices don't drop soon you can expect a big spike in the cost of food this year.
Farmers take the hit when input prices go up.
Middlemen reap the rewards when food prices go up.
Farmers also take all of the BLAME when food prices go up.
I'm sending you well wishes for your harvest this year.

I wish the general public understood that farmers aren't to blame for the cost of food. In the US many farmers are barely making a living because consumers demand cheap food and the middlemen demand to make a profit. I'm sure it's the same elsewhere in the world too.

The situation that started last year in the US beef industry is sickening. Processing plants shut down in 2020 just like the rest of the world did. That resulted in cattle ranchers unable to sell and having too many head this year, and feed prices went up along with everything else. Ranchers were driving from Texas to states bordering Canada to FIND hay for sale.

Supply was high, so prices per head are rock bottom.
Processing capacity is still lower than pre-2020, so beef is in limited supply nationwide, and prices are up quite a bit. Farmers are going bankrupt and middlemen are raking in enormous profits. Our food system is broken, farmers are leaving the profession, we're at a crisis point globally. Buy local if you can afford it. Ugh.
Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes SG in CR liked this post
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
fertilizer, nitrogen, price, prices, urea


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Simple Fertilizer Dispenser Ray Beginner Discussion 6 12-01-2019 07:36 PM
Question about fertilizer mixer and fertilizer schedule. BrassavolaStars Beginner Discussion 1 08-26-2019 04:55 PM
Regarding MSU fertilizer and deposits on medium Twelve Beginner Discussion 7 07-22-2019 03:17 PM
Fertilizer Measuring TDS EC Osmolality Osmolarity Water Quality estación seca Beginner Discussion 2 08-20-2017 08:30 AM
organic 8-1-2 fertilizer weez1959 Beginner Discussion 10 02-20-2010 07:58 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:40 PM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.