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03-26-2021, 11:01 AM
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In this particular instance, by leaf pleating, I was referring to the scrunched up accordion pattern new leaves develop. It's almost always attributed to underwatering, so for the twinkle, I'm not surprised the answer is to water more.
However, OT you brought up a point about the leaves sticking and actually, I've had that problem on my sharry baby. I'm going to try messing with that soon.
In this instance, I'd say BOTH of you guys pointed out something of interest, To me anyway
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03-26-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Orchidtinkerer
maybe I am not meant for Forums.
Or this Forum doesn't bode well for me.
I don't care, I am here to look after orchids and I feel like estacion doesn't even grow them by the amount of BS he has spewed out this year.
I've tried to be diplomatic about it but he comments on every single orchid and the last 10 care cases his advice has been to water more, even on cases with root rot where watering more is what causes the roblem in the first place.
I didn't point it out 10 times but now I have had enough of the bad advice and then I get told off.
The pleating has always resolved itself at mine and was never resolved by watering differently.
If someone gives wrong advice I can't point that out anymore now? I wish estacion would listen a bit more tbh, then I wouldn't have to point it out, but he just carries on giving bad advice and nobody bothers to correct him because it would be insensitive?
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The underlined example above is exactly the problem, OrchidTinkerer, and why you draw criticism. You make ASSumptions and don't have a clue other than you "feel" you disagree. Clearly it's rude, and obviously you know nothing about the particular topic of what estación seca has or hasn't grown, does or doesn't know. As I've told you before... state your own opinions and don't make broad-sweeping statements about another's expertise and opinion. It's like a pot calling the kettle black, without knowing anything about the kettle.
How do we know it isn't you who is giving the "bad" or "wrong" advice? How do we know how many orchids you've successfully grown or killed? Because you say you have the correct answer and someone else doesn't?
The issue in your particular case and being criticized is made because you criticize another member's "wrong" or "bad" advice. Most folks here are giving their personal opinion as to what works FOR THEM. The individual asking the question picks through those opinions, adjusts them to their particular conditions, chooses what advice/opinion suits them, and normally says thanks to others for their opinions.
Speak to others as you would like them to speak to you, and you'll have no issues.
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In this particular instance, by leaf pleating, I was referring to the scrunched up accordion pattern new leaves develop. It's almost always attributed to underwatering, so for the twinkle, I'm not surprised the answer is to water more.
However, OT you brought up a point about the leaves sticking and actually, I've had that problem on my sharry baby. I'm going to try messing with that soon.
In this instance, I'd say BOTH of you guys pointed out something of interest, To me anyway
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Sort of what I was saying about the Beallara, and some seem more prone to the leaf pleating than others. I wonder if it has something to do with particular hybrids or crosses that makes some more prone to leaf pleating than others? Not a clue, just a thought.
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03-26-2021, 11:40 AM
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There are a handful of people on this forum whose advice I trust without question, and one of those people is Estacion Seca. ES is generous with advice, always kind, and has helped me immensely in my hobby. If you have a problem with ES, you are the problem.
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This is my oppinion too!
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03-26-2021, 10:35 PM
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Maestro ------ in the tropics here, I grow my Oncidium Twinkle 'Fragrance Fantasy' and Sharry Baby in scoria. I water them in the morning each day - by just spraying water into the scoria. The scoria even sometimes does dry out. Humidity and temperature is generally good for these orchids here.
I don't get pleating at all. Maybe check humidity there. And also check temperature.
My Twinkle 'Fragrance Fantasy' is even producing a flower spike at the moment. I've had this one for maybe 2 and a half years ----- or a bit more. Been growing in scoria for all this time, and remains healthy.
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03-27-2021, 08:13 AM
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On topic: I grow quite a few in the Oncidium tribe. I grow them in moss, with a bit if bark mixed in. I often water from the bottom as ES suggests, keeping them constantly moist.
To the other topic: you will not find a kinder, more knowledgeable person than ES. He is a wealth of knowledge, has published, and freely shares all he has. You would not go wrong to have him in your corner. Stick to the topic, please. The world has enough critics.
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03-27-2021, 10:41 AM
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I figure I'm getting close to what it needs, as my fragrant fantasy is putting off 2 new growths and only 1 of them has slight scrunching. In hindsight, i wish I had mixed a little more moss into the bark, but for now I've been keeping a little water in their saucers. (Didn't I see that suggestion in a video about bulbophyllum care?)
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