ID NEEDED PLEASE HELP

[Zoizikid]

Hello everyone,
well I am zoi I just started with oncidium alliance six months ago. since then i manage to build up a nice collection with almost 32 plants. Due to limited space that is for now. although i labeled all of my plants and there are some missing ids . that would be nice if anyone could help.

[DirtyCoconuts]

very pretty blooms!

[Connie Star]

Beautiful. Not sure what they are though. I don't really grow oncidiums much.

[Orchid Whisperer]

They are Oncidium intergeneric hybrids. Without an ID tag or label that came with the plant, a name some one might try to assign is just a guess.

Just grow them for their appearance and don't worry about ID too much.

If ID is important to you, I suggest buying plants that have an ID tag.

[Zoizikid]

Hello. Thank you fro your answers. well i mostly prefer buying what i like, and then looking to mats them with registered hybrids.
from what i ve post, the last one is an oncidium sharry baby.
the one with orange-red color and many flowers is the wilsonara eye candy pinkie.
the one which is purple and spoted is a new hybrid from inca orchids. not registered yet. it will be in market to 6-7 years.
and i keep looking for the rest.

[SouthPark]

Originally Posted by Zoizikid

and i keep looking for the rest.

zoizi ------ getting an I.D. for an orchid that currently has no tag or id is generally very difficult ...... or can even be pretty much impossible.

If the orchid just so-happens to recognised, and somebody happens to pay for a DNA matching test, then that's one way of identifying an orchid (to show that it is what it is guessed to be) ---- but that would require some foresight, where the no-id is suspected of being a particular orchid.

In many cases, there's no such break or no such luck, especially for hybrids (crosses) ----- (except, again for cases where a particular no-id is suspected of being a particular cultivar plant ----- so a DNA matching test would then need to be done, which would need to be paid for).

So - in general ----- if an orchid has no-id, then chances of identifying it is going to be very low. And 'identification' will not mean 'guessing'. Identification means 100% certain.

Not having an I.D. for an orchid is quite ok in my mind.

Although - having correct ID is important for orchid breeders, and for those people that participate in orchid contests.

Now - as we know - some mystery can be nice. And also - it is people that give orchids 'names' and 'labels'. But if we love orchids for what they are ------ then we can generally not worry about the name, and just enjoy their beauty/colour/shape etc.

[Ray]

I don't think there's a Sharry Baby in the lot.

[Zoizikid]

i think the last one is a sharry baby of some variety. It smells full like chocolate and i found that it is really look alike with the oncidium sharry baby red fantasy and the sharry baby ruby doll varieties?

[Orchid Whisperer]

There are so many hybrids out there, that have been bred and re-bred without regard to tracking breeding, it is impossible to determine what an un-labeled hybrid may be.

A Sharry Baby is a hybrid from a very specific lineage of species and hybrids. Add another parent plant into the hybrid lineage, it's no longer Sharry Baby, it is something else. There are many look-alikes and plants with similar scents.

I agree with Ray, none of yours is a Sharry Baby. I own a labeled Wilsonara Eye Candy 'Pinky', I don't see one in your pictures.

Buying un-labeled plants and trying to match to a named hybrid is no way to develop a collection of properly labeled plants.

There is no problem growing unlabeled plants, just grow them and enjoy, but please leave them unlabeled.

[Zoizikid]

well, lots of question marks and whys from me.
i dont see why there is that way of answering to new members.

First of all, and i need i have to explain you that because you didn't understand. I said that i have a variety of Sharry Baby which of course means something relative with that but yes an other hybrid. because of the scent the color the patern etc.

Secondly, i want to buy my plants because i just like them. Then i try to figure out what kind of crossing is that and as much as i can to match it with some others talking about pseudobulbs, leaf, color of leaves and blooms . in that way i know how to treat them the best.

I think it is also right to say that all of us have buy plants with wrong labels so i dont really see why yours has to be the right example of the wilsonara eye candy pinkie.

i will attach some pictures of labelled plants of Wilsonara Eye Candy Pinkie, which make me believe i got that plant. (its pictures from european and american shops)

Finally, of course i CAN label my plants what ever i like or i believe its right. But the sure is that you can't tell me what i can or can't do.