The larger one looks a bit like T. utriculada (sp.?) or big pine needle as I grew up calling them; I can see if I can get a picture of mine (picked up from deadfall) if Photobucket will cooperate.
If they ever flower, that will be the determinant I think.
Do you know if the previous owner was from somewhere on the mainland (like here in Fla.) that has native tillies, and brought them from home? Or know someone who'd know what types are commonly cultivated in your area? Maybe bring a couple plantlets to a nearby university or ag extension?
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