Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves
Login
User Name
Password   


Registration is FREE. Click to become a member of OrchidBoard community
(You're NOT logged in)

menu menu

Sponsor
Donate Now
and become
Forum Supporter.

Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves
Many perks!
<...more...>


Sponsor
 

Google


Fauna Top Sites
Register Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Members Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Today's PostsKilling an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves
LOG IN/REGISTER TO CLOSE THIS ADVERTISEMENT
Go Back   Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! > >
Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-07-2016, 06:58 PM
rbarata rbarata is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2015
Zone: 10a
Location: Abrantes
Posts: 5,539
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves

Do you think this is a good way?
In my view, as soon as a new leaf starts to grow, if I cut it the plant will consume it's energy reserves on a new growth. By cutting this new growth, even more reserves will be consumed...and the cycle goes on until the reserves are not enough for the plant to survive.

Am I thinking correctly?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-07-2016, 08:22 PM
Leafmite's Avatar
Leafmite Leafmite is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Zone: 5b
Location: Ohio
Posts: 10,953
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves
Default

If you can cut the leaves and cover the stem, maybe. Some plants are so vigorous that they can keep trying for many, many years. It depends on how vigorous the root system is.
__________________
I decorate in green!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-07-2016, 08:28 PM
rbarata rbarata is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2015
Zone: 10a
Location: Abrantes
Posts: 5,539
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

I'm talking about a fern. It's still small, the biggest leaf is aprox. 2 inch tall.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-07-2016, 08:59 PM
Leafmite's Avatar
Leafmite Leafmite is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Zone: 5b
Location: Ohio
Posts: 10,953
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves
Default

I have been trying to get rid of fern on a couple of my terrarium mounts and they keep returning...ongoing battle. With a few of them, the plants are so delicate (i.e. Lepanthopsis astrophora 'Stalky') that it is pretty risky to pull the fern out, roots and all.
__________________
I decorate in green!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-07-2016, 10:30 PM
jkofferdahl jkofferdahl is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2008
Zone: 7b
Location: Smyrna, Georgia
Age: 68
Posts: 3,014
Default

Interestingly, an article in the December, 2016, issue of Orchids (by Sue Bottom, Ferns, Weeds and Orchids. Oh My! pp. 910-913) addresses the issue.

One method mentioned in it, which I've used, is to gently brush the invasive plant's leaves with a systemic herbicide. The author's complaint about this was that with the brush she used the herbicide didn't stick well to the leaves. I've used cotton pads as applicators and it's stuck just fine. As I brushed each fern's leaf I had a finger under the leaf so the mixture would really wet the whole leaf surface. You want to do the application when the orchid's potting media is fairly moist so the plant won't need watering for a few days, which allows the herbicide to get to the invader's root system before traces of it are washed away with watering. I used this method several years ago when I received a box of Phals that all had teeny, and not established, ferns about as you describe; using Roundup, and it killed the ferns without bothering the orchids at all. If I remember right I mixed it 25% Roundup to 75% water, but the article cites using a 50-50 mix. Perhaps it was effective for me at the mix I used because the cotton pad was a better applicator than her brush?

The article mentions several other methods, using diluted herbicide sprayed carefully onto the invaders, but that's even scarier that saying "Roundup" and "orchid" in the same sentence. Bottom's overall conclusion was that, at least once the weeds are large and established, the fern's rizome will likely be too large and the only solution at that point is to repot the orchid, carefully removing all traces of fern or weed when doing so. About all you need to do is miss a cell of the fern's root and it'll come back.

Last edited by jkofferdahl; 12-07-2016 at 10:34 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-08-2016, 08:20 AM
Ray's Avatar
Ray Ray is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: May 2005
Member of:AOS
Location: Oak Island NC
Posts: 15,205
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

Q-tip and Roundup herbicide. Dab carefully, avoiding all contact why the orchid.
__________________
Ray Barkalow, Orchid Iconoclast
FIRSTRAYS.COM
Try Kelpak - you won't be sorry!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-08-2016, 09:41 AM
rbarata rbarata is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2015
Zone: 10a
Location: Abrantes
Posts: 5,539
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

Thanks for the tips. I'm not sure if I'll try the chemical way because of one thing for which I need your advise: the orchid needs reppoting into a basket so I could take care of two issues at once.
I'm just not sure if it's the best time to do it.

It's a young stanhopea wardii, potted as two pbulbs in the beginning of May and is now growing vigorously... as well as the fern.
Do you think I can repot it now or is it too soon?

Here are some photos of both plants:

Friends, hopefully not forever.



Vigurous root growth





Roots growing under the pot

Reply With Quote
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Likes
Likes estación seca liked this post
  #8  
Old 12-08-2016, 01:12 PM
rbarata rbarata is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2015
Zone: 10a
Location: Abrantes
Posts: 5,539
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

Quote:
Interestingly, an article in the December, 2016, issue of Orchids (by Sue Bottom, Ferns, Weeds and Orchids. Oh My! pp. 910-913) addresses the issue.
Probably this one.

In the meanwhile my father in law got me some Roundup, enough for 10 L of water.
But I'd still prefer to repot it if you think is ok.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-09-2016, 12:25 AM
estación seca's Avatar
estación seca estación seca is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jun 2015
Zone: 9b
Location: Phoenix AZ - Lower Sonoran Desert
Posts: 18,654
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

I would not repot going into the winter, unless forced to by decomposing medium.
__________________
May the bridges I've burned light my way.

Weather forecast for my neighborhood
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-09-2016, 08:16 AM
rbarata rbarata is offline
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Mar 2015
Zone: 10a
Location: Abrantes
Posts: 5,539
Killing an invasive plant by cutting its leaves Male
Default

And when "painting" with Roundup? One leaf is enough? Or should I paint as much as possible? I want to minimize the max the use of this product.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
consumed, cutting, growth, plant, reserves, leaves, invasive, killing


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
First Orchids, Newbie Questions. axelrod12 Beginner Discussion 46 01-02-2014 01:26 PM
Vanda plant white fungus on root and poss. bacterial infection on leaves gardeningnewbie Beginner Discussion 11 08-28-2013 07:53 AM
Help! Mysterious rings killing leaves! planetnatural Beginner Discussion 14 08-25-2011 02:07 AM
Dendrobium aggreatum majus TOMD Dendrobium Alliance 6 05-28-2007 03:31 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:24 AM.

© 2007 OrchidBoard.com
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.37 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Clubs vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.