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mrobert 02-19-2008 11:01 PM

I try every time I'm in the woods to spot one, or at least find some signs of one. The local paper ran some pics of a cougar drinking out of someone's water decoration thingy in a backyard just miles from my house...

Lorraine 02-20-2008 11:04 AM

OMD :shock: I would have freaked. I love wildlife but that one was too close for comfort.
Lorraine

Tindomul 02-20-2008 02:19 PM

I just learned that the Cougar is found everywhere in the Americas where it is cool enough, from US to Argentina. Amazing animal!

kavanaru 02-20-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tindomul (Post 82602)
I just learned that the Cougar is found everywhere in the Americas where it is cool enough, from US to Argentina. Amazing animal!

Tindomul, Cougars can also be found where it is not cool at all ;) They inhabits also the Llanos from Venezuela, where temps hardly goes below 25ºC (that's actually the place where I saw the one I mentioned before)

Tindomul 02-20-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kavanaru (Post 82629)
Tindomul, Cougars can also be found where it is not cool at all ;) They inhabits also the Llanos from Venezuela, where temps hardly goes below 25ºC (that's actually the place where I saw the one I mentioned before)


Really, I was under the impression that they do not do well in hot areas because they are not found in the rain forests. I guess they just don't do well in the rain forests. There you have to contend with the Jaguar. There must be cats everywhere!

kavanaru 02-21-2008 01:53 AM

well, actually you also find them in the rainforests ;) they are very adaptable cats... in Venezuela you can find them almost everywhere from 0 m abovee sea level to (at least) 3500 m asl
I just found a nice distribution map in the Wikipedia. There you can see they are almos every where in south america: Image:Puma range.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sandy4453 03-05-2009 09:21 PM

WOW, what an amazingly beautiful and frightening sight, all in one.

Blueszz 03-06-2009 06:32 AM

Wooow, that is amazing animal but too close for comfort. I would be freakin'! What if it's summer and the doors are open during beautiful evenings/nights!
Oh my and what I I would have to walk the dogs that time of the day.
Thanks for showing these pictures, they are amazing!

greenbean 03-07-2009 12:28 AM

Got a little carried away...
 
Beautiful creature. What a shame that cougars and other animals, especially large predators, are losing their habitat. What's even more of a shame is that so many people can't keep it in their pants so we can stop our ridiculous population growth!

Before you read through this whole poorly-written rant, I would like to say that I am merely expressing my opinion and it is not my intention to accuse or offend anyone. I simply feel that I have to say these things.

Seriously, yes we have the right to have a family and protect that family with whatever means necessary, but with rights come responsibilities. We had a fairly stable, slow growing population until the early 20th century, and then it started exploding! What is wrong with people? Are 10 kids really any better than 2? If we could just be responsible our problems, while still present, would at least be smaller. Think about it! If people thought before they dropped trow, we wouldn't have this huge debate about abortion and our population wouldn't be threatening to consume all other life on Earth! Surprisingly, to me at least, the U.S. isn't even the worst for population growth or pollution or other environmental damage (anymore), but other nations have taken our earlier examples to extremes and we are just learning (late, as always) to attempt to correct some of our mistakes.

We've developed this subconscious idea that humans are not part of nature, and then we freak out when it suddenly barges in on "our" world, like this cougar. Not to sound too hippie-dippy or tree-hugger-ish, but people really need to realize that we are a part of nature and are subject to its laws. When a pack of wolves in Idaho attacks a cow or sheep, that's nature at work. We've moved in and driven out the natural prey of predators like wolves and courgars and replaced them with slow, dumb, inbred livestock. That is exactly what predators target, the slow and the weak, which helps to remove inferior genes from the pool and allowing the species to become stronger. Even when an animal attacks a person, it's just predator verses prey, animal against animal. Yes, it's sad and it shouldn't have happened, but it did, it does, and it will. If people don't want to deal with nature, we had better start working on expanding that space station! What we need to do is realize that we can't escape the animal kingdom because we are a part of it.

We should protect ourselves and our family, it's only natural, but we can't isolate ourselves from nature and we can't force animals out of their habitats. We can't expect them to obey our artificial boundaries and leave us alone. They are only trying to adapt and survive in a world we are shaping to fit our own wants and, less often, our needs.

Sorry for this little rant and thanks for bearing with me, even if you don't agree with me. As gardeners, I think that we generally have a better "awareness" of nature and our place in it, but we can still loose perspective and become biased against all "dangerous" animals when one isolated situation threatens us or our families (or in my case my plants, when the deer massacre them:blushing:).

greenbean 03-07-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ely (Post 82026)
WOW. That would be scary! Big kitty + thin glass + little kids = bad news. I honestly think cougars are awesome, and plan on getting a bobcat in a few years, but in that situation I would most likely grab the gun.

Just curious, why do you plan on getting a bobcat? They are wild animals and are in no way tame, nor can they ever truely be tamed. They may be small like house cats, but they are just as wild as a tiger. Even in a zoo, with hand-raised animals, handlers treat cats and animals of all sorts with respect as the predators they are. My sincerest apologies if I sound judgemental, accusing, or patronizing. I am just trying to determine your motives to owning a wild animal.


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