Spanish Bluebell (hyacinthoides hispanica)

[NYCorchidman]

Uh....I'm sorry but that's not my taste at all, and to me, Virginia Bluebell is nothing compared to Spanish Bluebell.
English Bluebells come quite close to Spanish Bluebells, though.

I see what you talk about, though. I have travelled a lot and have seen some beautiful wild American fields.

[Subrosa]

When you plant your own garden your own taste is practically all that matters. A botanical garden should hold itself to a higher standard than just taste, and Spanish BlueBells are a known invasive in the US.

[NYCorchidman]

Well, Botanical Garden is not native species collection center.
Its main purpose is showing beauty and diversity of plants. I don't think I hardly see any that are American Native in this particular Botanical garden and I don't think it needs to since it is not a native plant garden.

Spanish Bluebells are not just my taste but they appeal to great many people all over the world, hence their wide popularity for a very long time.
They are beautiful and people love it, so having it as part of collection in the BBG provides public something to admire and enjoy.

I see your concern for invasive species, but I don't think by having this in the garden, they are advertising destroying the native habitat in any way.

[Subrosa]

Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Well, Botanical Garden is not native species collection center.
Its main purpose is showing beauty and diversity of plants. I don't think I hardly see any that are American Native in this particular Botanical garden and I don't think it needs to since it is not a native plant garden.

Spanish Bluebells are not just my taste but they appeal to great many people all over the world, hence their wide popularity for a very long time.
They are beautiful and people love it, so having it as part of collection in the BBG provides public something to admire and enjoy.

I see your concern for invasive species, but I don't think by having this in the garden, they are advertising destroying the native habitat in any way.

Advertising? They're supplying the seed!

[wintergirl]

Interesting. Here is an "alert" from the National Park Service about this plant:

http://www.nps.gov/cue/epmt/products...%20NCREPMT.pdf

[NYCorchidman]

Originally Posted by Subrosa

Advertising? They're supplying the seed!

Well, it's Brooklyn. The seeds won't go too far.
Have you seen the seeds? They are about the size of rice.
Small round black granular things.
Definitely nothing that will be carried easily by the wind like dandelion. lol

I just read about a few states where these plants were found growing in the wild.
While I do not know how they got out, I wonder if big part of it is that people in the suburban area had these plants in their yard and field as "naturalizers" and then...
Or some irresponsible and clueless (but not ill-meaning) people thought they are so pretty and began to plant the bulbs all over in the favorite morning and afternoon trails near the mountain where they live. All possible.

By the way, I still think it is a far fetch to say the botanical garden is providing seeds and thus pose threat to the environment.

Plus, this is not even on the high danger list.

Ok, now I posted these pictures for those who will enjoy the beauty of this plant, so please stop further adding more posts arguing about how this plant is invasive and on and on.

I really have no desire and this is not where I want this thread to go.

Thank you very much for your cooperation!

[Subrosa]

I can tell the forest service for certain that they can add PA to the list of states where the plant is established. I collected one this past season about a mile from my house. It went dormant shortly after I potted it, but will be back next spring. This area is on my list of eligible locations to reintroduce a state extirpated species I grow, so I have a more than passing acquaintance with its flora and fauna. This is the first incidence of Spanish Bluebells since I started exploring the area 8 years ago.

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Originally Posted by NYCorchidman

Well, it's Brooklyn. The seeds won't go too far.
Have you seen the seeds? They are about the size of rice.
Small round black granular things.
Definitely nothing that will be carried easily by the wind like dandelion. lol

I just read about a few states where these plants were found growing in the wild.
While I do not know how they got out, I wonder if big part of it is that people in the suburban area had these plants in their yard and field as "naturalizers" and then...
Or some irresponsible and clueless (but not ill-meaning) people thought they are so pretty and began to plant the bulbs all over in the favorite morning and afternoon trails near the mountain where they live. All possible.

By the way, I still think it is a far fetch to say the botanical garden is providing seeds and thus pose threat to the environment.

Plus, this is not even on the high danger list.

Ok, now I posted these pictures for those who will enjoy the beauty of this plant, so please stop further adding more posts arguing about how this plant is invasive and on and on.

I really have no desire and this is not where I want this thread to go.

Thank you very much for your cooperation!

I don't for one second say that botanical gardens shouldn't grow these. They are indeed a beautiful plant, and introducing people to plants they wouldn't normally encounter is one of the most important functions of such an institution. As is conservation. The responsible way to grow them is in a greenhouse. If you're interested I'd be happy to give you the one I collected. Once I'm sure it survived dormancy next spring you can have it for postage.