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11-05-2013, 03:51 AM
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New carnivorous plants?
I got some new carnivorous infants today and was wondering two things. Is there any specialised care? And can anyone identify them?
I have a few a do like them. But not enough that I feel prepared to just throw myself at ones.
In my care I have two nepenthes, a ventrata and a miranda. A venus fly trap, a purple pitcher plant, and a seedling pitcher plant that came in its pot.
And I did want to try these guys out but was waiting to find some healthy looking ones.
I got these at Lowe's in those plastic dome packages.
The last one is a tiny nepenthes. Not sure what kind. I'm guessing ventrata since that's whati see most often. It could be miranda or sanguinea dice those are the two others I've seen for sale. I can't tell.
I got it mainly because it was so cute and small. I can't wait to watch it grow up
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11-05-2013, 03:53 AM
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11-05-2013, 05:02 PM
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Here they are in their temporary home till I figure out what to do with them.
In the back is also a phal that insists on killing itself.
The nepenthes is so tiny and cute!
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11-05-2013, 06:10 PM
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Some sort of Drosera var. alba is the one with sticky hairs
The other flat leafed is a type of Pinguicula or Butterwort as they're commonly known
And the one with pitchers is a Nepenthes
Sorry I can't give you exact types
The Pings & Droseras are bog plants, sit them in a little tray of water. They should be in low nutrient soil, like peat sphagnum with perlite.
The Nepenthes like to remain moist, but not wet. I've got my babies in 2 parts sphagnum 1 part orchiata.
*Very important*
Only use rain, reverse osmosis or distilled water for them.
No minerals!
The Neps are more forgiving, but I don't use anything else.
ok, that's all I got, I'm still a newbie with these as well & I know there are more knowledgeable folks on here when it comes to carnivorous plants plus that thing called Google can help you find sites with tons of info now that you know what they are.
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11-05-2013, 06:47 PM
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I'm still a newbie too, but I can tell you that the sundews (drosera) are deciduous. They will drop their leaves and they DO need to hibernate. I have mine sitting in the garage right now and I am just going out and adding enough water to keep the moss its in from compacting into a brick.
If you use distilled water, you will have to fertilize, so IMO, rain water is best. You can feed them two or three insects every three to six months instead of giving them fertilizer, but do not overfeed. Every time they close their leaves around an insect to digest it, it causes leaf damage. They can close around an insect just a few times before the plant will drop the leaf, so be careful about providing nutrients for them this way.
If you figure out some magical method for getting yours to thrive in that tiny set up of yours, please share! I have a butterwort too and it's doing ok, but I would love it if the little guy could thrive.
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Also, where did the glass case come from? I'd love to do something similar with my carnivorous plants! That's pretty swanky looking!
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11-05-2013, 09:13 PM
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I believe the butterwort is a Pinguicula Primuliflora, also called the primrose butterwort.You can be positive it is that if it grows little plantlets on the sides of its leaves.
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11-06-2013, 12:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brn_thmbs
Some sort of Drosera var. alba is the one with sticky hairs
The other flat leafed is a type of Pinguicula or Butterwort as they're commonly known
And the one with pitchers is a Nepenthes
Sorry I can't give you exact types
The Pings & Droseras are bog plants, sit them in a little tray of water. They should be in low nutrient soil, like peat sphagnum with perlite.
The Nepenthes like to remain moist, but not wet. I've got my babies in 2 parts sphagnum 1 part orchiata.
*Very important*
Only use rain, reverse osmosis or distilled water for them.
No minerals!
The Neps are more forgiving, but I don't use anything else.
ok, that's all I got, I'm still a newbie with these as well & I know there are more knowledgeable folks on here when it comes to carnivorous plants plus that thing called Google can help you find sites with tons of info now that you know what they are.
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lol. I knew their names and what types they are... I was looking for more specific information.
Mainly whether or not the ones I have need a winter rest. Great info though.
That one post would've been super helpful to be a year ago instead of scouring the internet for days lol.
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Originally Posted by RandomGemini
I'm still a newbie too, but I can tell you that the sundews (drosera) are deciduous. They will drop their leaves and they DO need to hibernate. I have mine sitting in the garage right now and I am just going out and adding enough water to keep the moss its in from compacting into a brick.
If you use distilled water, you will have to fertilize, so IMO, rain water is best. You can feed them two or three insects every three to six months instead of giving them fertilizer, but do not overfeed. Every time they close their leaves around an insect to digest it, it causes leaf damage. They can close around an insect just a few times before the plant will drop the leaf, so be careful about providing nutrients for them this way.
If you figure out some magical method for getting yours to thrive in that tiny set up of yours, please share! I have a butterwort too and it's doing ok, but I would love it if the little guy could thrive.
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Also, where did the glass case come from? I'd love to do something similar with my carnivorous plants! That's pretty swanky looking!
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That's the thing. I know some of them need a winter rest, but some others don't. I really don't want to kill it lol. I'm hopping I got varieties that don't need one....
I'll feed them lightly, thanks for the tip.
I use RODI water. It's cheap and nearby.
Unfortunately my area of California doesn't get neatly enough rain to make it worth collecting.
I'll let you know if I can get it to work lol.
Honestly it's a temporary home but I've been considering something permanent with it lately.
The little plastic domes they came in had such high humidity I could barely see the plants through the layer of condensation.
So instead of just chucking them in my room I decided to ease them down to normal humidity levels slowly.
It's from Target. It was in their tiny home decor section for half off.
I use it mainly to rescue rootless phals. It's called... I think on the tag it said miniature wardian case. There's lots of decorative wardian cases and terrariums in my area.
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I believe the butterwort is a Pinguicula Primuliflora, also called the primrose butterwort.You can be positive it is that if it grows little plantlets on the sides of its leaves.
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Oh good! I sure hope so! If I remember that's one that doesn't need winter dormancy.
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11-06-2013, 09:08 AM
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Everytime I go to Lowe's I look for the Butterwort but it is never there. They have every other type of carnivorous plant. The butterwort is the only one I want though. Great advice for when I finally find one.
I also like the Smith and Hawken mini greenhouse from Target!
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11-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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I am no carnivorous plant expert so I could be wrong but I don't think any of those need a winter rest.
The only care my carnivorous plants get is a tray of water under them and some light. I NEVER fertilize them and sometimes in the winter I will give the sundews a little food but that's it
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11-06-2013, 02:45 PM
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The nepenthes do not need any dormancy. They should have high humidity and low - medium light (they should be fine with phals or paphs). High humidity will help keep pitchers nice and big, and low humdity causes them do cease growing and die.
They can easily survive without pitchers, but after a year or so without food they may slow down. This goes with most carnivorous plants.
The venus flytrap, the purple pitcher plant (Sarracenia) and the butterwort (Pinguicula) need dormancy, which isn't easy to provide..Set them outside, in an unheated garage, or last resort, the fridge to overwinter. Without their dormancy, they overwork themselves and die.
I believe your hardiness zone should be fine for venus flytraps, though I'm not sure about the ping. The sarracenia may need more of a cold winter, though. They will drop theirs leaves, and look as if they are dying once they do go dormant, though. Decrease watering once they are dormant, and keep them from intense frost.
RO, distilled and rain water are preferred.
Fertilizing is pretty risky, and only the experienced growers do it (very lightly).
Coffee treatment for Nepenthes works great (just water with a cup of regular black coffee) but don't do it on other plants..Twice a year is the limit for this, though.
Sundews, sarracenias, pings and venus flytraps need to have an inch of water below their pots..Place a tray of water below their pots and fill it.Let the water go down, and then refill.
Nepenthes need top watering, as they don't like wet feet. Keep it moist, but not waterlogged. Tip ; If you feel more comfortable with orchid bark, mix it into some sphagnum moss. Heck, I've heard of people growing Nepenthes in only bark, although it's not recommended or common.
I use Spaghnum (long-fibered), Fine-grade orchid bark and a little bit of peat in a 2;1;1 ratio, although I'm only a beginner. Many orchid mediums work well ; lava rock, perlite, sphagnum, bark..etc as long as you mix it to keep it moist longer.
I've only really gotten Nepenthes (one ventricosa, and some seeds to a hybrid) but I've done my research as I'm thinking about getting some sundews, pings..etc
Sorry for the overload of information, thrown here and there. In general, Nepenthes (mostly ventrata) aren't horribly difficult, and can be treated like paphs (but with different,moist medium)
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