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Leafmite 12-08-2012 09:17 PM

I edited it. Try papaya. It is truly perfect for what you want. Two years from seed to fruit, no grafting, spraying or anything else. And, hey, I do think what you were trying was cool.

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KultureShock 12-09-2012 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 537731)
I edited it. Try papaya. It is truly perfect for what you want. Two years from seed to fruit, no grafting, spraying or anything else. And, hey, I do think what you were trying was cool.

Thanks for moving the thread and cleaning things up WhiteRabbit :bowing
and
thanks to you too Leafmite! i did some research and thats truly a brilliant idea, I will have to adjust the hormone levels in the experiment but it should work even better then with apple's and this way it's an experiment on my end of things as well which is great in my opinion.
I'm going to ask everyone's oppinion on what plant they would like to bonsai though and try to get a group decision if possible ;) but i will have papaya at top of my list of suggestions!
Thanks again and if you feel like participating it would be great to work with you!
Best regards,
Kevin Disher
KultureShock

Leisurely 12-13-2012 08:00 PM

I think it is a good suggestion but what can you do in a short term of one month?

Vanda lover 12-13-2012 08:16 PM

My question has to be just WHY? Apples are very easy to grow outdoors and if I was giving the plant hormones, I don't think I want to eat the fruit. I guess the idea is a miniature, but there are plenty of plants more suited. Apples like a cool winter which is why they can't be grown in some warmer climates.

KultureShock 12-13-2012 08:36 PM

After 165 days the plant has no traces of the paclobutrazol so the fruit would be safe to eat, and if you had been following along with the experiment you would know we are now using paulownia tree's because of the concerns expressed. As to why, i thought it was quite obvious i am conducting a series of experiments to teach everyone involved on the biochemical factors behind plant growth, and how to utilize them to your advantage in a vast number of ways.(inducing plants to fruit without being pollinated resulting in seedless fruits( i am going to be doing a group experiment with pink bananas later on, they are edible but rarely eaten because of the large number of rock hard seeds inside, we will be using gibberellic acid to produce seedless bananas suitable for eating. Gibberellic acid is 100% safe to ingest and the amount left in the fruit upon harvest should be at natural levels) feminizing of seed, induce branching, break dormancy, provide resistance to disease and environmental stress, Enhance the coloration of plants,induce flowering,germinate seed without a need for stratification,some seeds cannot be germinated at all indoors without the use of certain hormones, and seeds that are inviable due to old age can in some cases be made viable through the use of hormones,hormones can be used to increase leaf, fruit, and root size of plants, they can also be useful in getting plants to flower at times of the year when they normally shouldn't and many, many more uses that i will get into as we continue the experiments) All of the plant growth regulators we will be working with in any of the experiments except for paclobutrazol are naturally occuring and found in trace amounts in nearly all plant matter that we consume and are safe in even large amount's(If you have ever had a drink of aloe vera juice you are consuming high levels of indole acetic acid) so there really is no cause for concern except when dealing with paclobutrazol and in that case i will be going over extensive safety procedures and after 165 at most all traces of paclobutrazol will be gone from the plant and the soil, i am glad you brought this to my attention though as it is good for everyone who reads this to have an answer to that question, so thanks :bowing
Best regards,
Kevin Disher
KultureShock

KultureShock 12-13-2012 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leisurely (Post 538731)
I think it is a good suggestion but what can you do in a short term of one month?

I have changed the plant we will be working with to Paulownia, it is the fastest growing tree in the world so i think it is a much better choice so if you wanted to join us i will be providing the seeds and hormones needed for the project, but if you wanted to pick something that grows more quickly i would be willing to help you individually, and come up with a lab specific to the plant of your choice it isn't necessary for you to participate in the group project , i really just want to educate as many people as i can so if your interested in learning about the biochemical processes of plant's i would be more then happy to help you in any way i can, we could even come up with an altogether different experiment for orchids if you would like.

Best regards,
Kevin Disher
KultureShock

Vanda lover 12-14-2012 01:15 AM

This is very interesting. If I had the space I would join you. Good luck with your experiment.


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