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08-11-2007, 09:19 PM
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What ever happened to uli
and the rest of the europeans. have not seen them around in a while
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08-12-2007, 10:41 AM
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Must be the July/August heat wave, we (europeans) just go crazy!
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08-12-2007, 10:44 AM
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I was wondering about her myself! She might be catching up on all that sleep we deprived her of in the chat room
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08-13-2007, 11:14 AM
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lol. Maybe they are all on their famous Euro vacations. I've heard they take months at a time from work in the summer.
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08-13-2007, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindomul1of9
I've heard they take months at a time from work in the summer.
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Well, if you find exactly the place where people can and really do that please take the time to tell me. I know a lot of persons that would like it!
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08-13-2007, 05:28 PM
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At work, they offer a 'term-time' working hour contract, which gives you the month of August off (school summer break) as well as all of the term and half-term breaks.
They just published a report comparing paid annual leave in various countries... it paints a really bleak picture of the US!
3/2007 / 2007 / EEEPB / Files / Media - ETUI-REHS
Legally Required Days of Paid Annual Leave in Other Countries:
France 30
Spain 30
Sweden 25
Finland 24
Norway 21
United Kingdom 20
Netherlands 20
Italy 20
Germany 20
Canada 10
The minimum mandated by EU regulations is 20 days... a far cry from nothing in the US!
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08-13-2007, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shakkai
At work, they offer a 'term-time' working hour contract, which gives you the month of August off (school summer break) as well as all of the term and half-term breaks.
They just published a report comparing paid annual leave in various countries... it paints a really bleak picture of the US!
3/2007 / 2007 / EEEPB / Files / Media - ETUI-REHS
Legally Required Days of Paid Annual Leave in Other Countries:
France 30
Spain 30
Sweden 25
Finland 24
Norway 21
United Kingdom 20
Netherlands 20
Italy 20
Germany 20
Canada 10
The minimum mandated by EU regulations is 20 days... a far cry from nothing in the US!
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OK, since you started this (referes to teachers in Michigan, USA), what about paid day off for opening day of hunting season? How about "in service days" where teachers study up on what they are going to do for the next block of days? Paid of course. What about The process of taking a year's annual salary and spreading it over 10 months instead of 12? After all the teachers deserve a break so they can go hold a 2-month part-time job in addition to the regular salary. How about paid health care (100%) during the full 12 months even though they only work 10 months? US teachers (at least in Michigan, where they are in the top 2-3 in the US) get plenty for what they have to offer. I know - I pay huge school taxes on top of other taxes. But you've got me beat there in England don't you?
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08-13-2007, 06:05 PM
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This is just the legally mandated annual leave.... I work for a large multi-national computer company, and I get 26 paid vacation days, plus 9 national holidays. You won't hear me complaining!!! Having worked in the US for a small company where we were lucky to get 5 days paid vacation, this is something I certainly don't take for granted!
You probably don't want to get into working hours, either.... Working 'full-time' here means 37 hours a week here in the UK (actually, legally it is anything over 35 hours a week). France is also 35 hours per week, I believe.
The only thing I can say about teachers, is that the 'good ones' probably put in more than 40 hours a week during term times - with no over-time compensation. So, maybe it evens out?
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08-13-2007, 06:19 PM
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The only thing I can say about teachers, is that the 'good ones' probably put in more than 40 hours a week during term times - with no over-time compensation. So, maybe it evens out?
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Got me there! Yes good ones put in their time for sure. I'm not really one to complain, mind you, since before retirement I got 26 paid days off per year, and could "carry over" 30 days forever. I also got 4 hours every two weeks of sick leave in addition that accumulated indefinately. So when I retire I had 448 hours annual leave (vacation) and over a year of sick leave that all got paid. It's just this was about teachers. Here they are well cared-for.
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08-13-2007, 06:34 PM
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My Girlfriend is a public school teacher and she goes in 1 and half hours ealry, that means she gets up at 4:30 to 5:00 am everyday!! and leaves 2 to 4 hours late, depending on whether or not they have a meeting that day. She puts in a lot of non paid overtime. But thats just the nature of teaching.
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