Fruits and veggies?

[kvet]

Originally Posted by camille1585

I'm still thinking that the plant is massively out of balance. How are your conditions? (temp, humidity, watering/rainfall) How are you fertilizing? Lots of water, cool-ish temps, high humidity, low light (so all conditions during a period of stormy overcast weather) and too much N in the fertilizer can cause plants to be very vegetative.

You pretty much summed it up!

We've had "june gloom" for last four weeks, which is how long the tomatoes have been in these containers. Temps have been very moderate 62-72F for the most part. I'm less than a mile from the ocean, so consistently humid. DIY self-watering containers. Overcast mornings until noon. Breezy afternoons. It rained this morning (!!). Forecast shows increased temps and full sunshine ahead for a normal southern California summer beginning this weekend.

Each container has a couple tablespoons each of dry organic fertilizer and same amount of worm castings, all added when I mixed up the soil a couple months ago. I've been feeding with a liquid fert with each watering but now after re-reading the label that's a little too much!

I wonder why the other type didn't behave like this? Because it is a determinate variety?

[camille1585]

Originally Posted by kvet

You pretty much summed it up!

We've had "june gloom" for last four weeks, which is how long the tomatoes have been in these containers. Temps have been very moderate 62-72F for the most part. I'm less than a mile from the ocean, so consistently humid. DIY self-watering containers. Overcast mornings until noon. Breezy afternoons. It rained this morning (!!). Forecast shows increased temps and full sunshine ahead for a normal southern California summer beginning this weekend.

Each container has a couple tablespoons each of dry organic fertilizer and same amount of worm castings, all added when I mixed up the soil a couple months ago. I've been feeding with a liquid fert with each watering but now after re-reading the label that's a little too much!

I wonder why the other type didn't behave like this? Because it is a determinate variety?

Sounds like the return of 'normal' weather should improve the plants' growth habits, so I wonder what's going to happen with those curly tops!

As to why other varieties behave like that, it could just be genetic (and maybe linked to being determiate, like you say). At work we're trialing different tomato types in our indoor farming facility, and we do see differences in how different varieties respond to changes in the climate.

[kvet]

I didn't realize June Gloom is specific to southern california: June Gloom - Wikipedia

Just in case no one was familiar with the term

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by kvet

I didn't realize June Gloom is specific to southern california: June Gloom - Wikipedia

Just in case no one was familiar with the term

Cool that it's "a thing" in Wikipedia... I have lived in coastal southern California my whole life, and it has been the standard pattern... when I was a kid, going to the beach when school was out in June was a waste of time... maybe one would get an hour or two of hazy sun in early afternoon but it was cooold. Then the hottest days are in September and October, back in school when the beach was so inviting. Not fair.

[WaterWitchin]

Originally Posted by kvet

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Each container has a couple tablespoons each of dry organic fertilizer and same amount of worm castings, all added when I mixed up the soil a couple months ago. I've been feeding with a liquid fert with each watering but now after re-reading the label that's a little too much!

I wonder why the other type didn't behave like this? Because it is a determinate variety?

Back off on nitrogen. And Black Krim is an indeterminate.

[kvet]

Originally Posted by WaterWitchin

And Black Krim is an indeterminate.

Yup. I wrote "the other type", meaning Tasmanian Chocolate, that's a determinate

I'm pretty certain you are all right, too much fertilizer, and the black krim has responded like a mutation or something.. it had vegetative growth coming off a flower stem (I plucked it before taking a photo, if I see this again I'll remember to snap a pic). For whatever reasons, whether genetic or otherwise, the TC is not showing any strange signs, just plugging along, looking all healthy and strong.