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Old 05-16-2013, 03:29 AM
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It can work. I've seen posts about your kind of setup before on the OB. This seemed to be pretty popular in certain parts of Europe at one point in time - not sure if it still is.

Do a search on the OB about living plant walls. You'll find a few posts. (Perhaps these posts were part of the inspiration for your project.?)
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Old 09-06-2013, 08:37 AM
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I can't believe I just found this thread!! Very interesting.

How is everything doing now...any updates?
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I recently removed all the catts from this aeroponic setup and put them on a wall of a completely different design. They grew well on the aeroponic wall - too well, in fact. It became very apparent that most of them would outgrow their 3" holes within a year. Some had started attaching new roots to the outside of the wall. I could have left them and let them take over the outside of the wall, but then it would become just another mount, needing constant spraying on the surface. Too much maintenance for what I wanted to accomplish.

The new wall is a completely different design. It is a true mount, in the sense that all the plants grow on the exterior of the wall, and there is no air space inside.



The back of each wall is my regular, dense ECC, about 10 mm thick. Over that is a much looser mix of watered-down ECC mixed with chopped hemp stems and sisal fibres. Lots of small air spaces and crevices, and generally much more porous material.



I stuck several wood branches into the top surface (a white willow that was cut down about 5 years ago and has been 'aging' ever since) to create a bit of interest and make it easier to mount the catts, at least initially.

At the top of each wall section is a cast-in water reservoir, with ends of sisal fibres that lead into the wall and act as water conduits.



Prior to mounting the catts, I planted some stone crop and irish moss on the wall, just to see if anything would grow on it. The stonecrop is doing very well; the irish moss did not survive. I washed all the soil off the roots, so I guess irish moss is a true terrestrial plant, while stonecrop can be an epiphyte. This is what it looked like before the catts went on it. I also spread "Moss Milkshake" on the surfaces, to no effect whatsoever. The moss is still not growing.



The self-irrigating design is working very well. One wall (the first I made) takes 2-3 days to discharge all the water in the 2L reservoir, and the plant roots stay moist without getting soggy. The other wall discharges much more quickly, and I've been trying to figure out how to slow it down. I'll probably have to mix up some more ECC material and pour it into the sisal fibre ends inside the reservoir.



The planter at the bottom is filled with lava rock. It catches all the drips, and currently holds a few of the catts that didn't make it onto the walls. Some are in a very poor condition (they must have been shielded from the spray nozzles in the aeroponic setup), so I'm hoping that being in a constantly moist environment will help them recover. The planter has a hose fitting embedded into the bottom, and the 1/4" vinyl hose leads into a bucket. Then the water is dumped into my non-orchid houseplants or the tomatoes outside.

The light fixture is also self-made. I put in two lightbulb sockets that hold Ray's LED lightbulbs (not fluorescent replacement tubes). Not quite enough for the height of these walls (about 110 cm), and I can't figure out what else I can add that won't block the view of the plants. This is something I need to resolve quickly, as my goal is to make this setup suitable for even the darkest indoor locations.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:54 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. I already asked Ray about it, but he says it doesn't wick. I may still figure out a way to use it.
Check my thread about Hygrolon Cylinder in Vase. I was thinking about the materials for quite some time, till I went with HYGROLON, it wicks great! If you need more info or where to get it, PM me.

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This is very COOL! I love it!
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It looks fantastic! It's like having a piece of the rain forest.
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That is fabulous! Great way to have a beautiful orchid growing area. Wish I had one. You mentioned you are looking for a way to add more light to the design. In addition to the horizontal bar of lights from above, consider vertical light mounts on either side. I have one of my grow areas with vertical lighting and have seen others as well. If you think about it, in nature, the sun is seldom directly above. It's either rising or setting.

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That is fabulous! Great way to have a beautiful orchid growing area. Wish I had one. You mentioned you are looking for a way to add more light to the design. In addition to the horizontal bar of lights from above, consider vertical light mounts on either side. I have one of my grow areas with vertical lighting and have seen others as well. If you think about it, in nature, the sun is seldom directly above. It's either rising or setting.
Thanks, I have certainly considered lights from the sides. The problem is, I don't want to block the view of the plants with the light fixtures. I'll figure something out, it will probably involve some version of clip-on gooseneck lamps (which I detest for aesthetic reasons)
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Thanks, I have certainly considered lights from the sides. The problem is, I don't want to block the view of the plants with the light fixtures. I'll figure something out, it will probably involve some version of clip-on gooseneck lamps (which I detest for aesthetic reasons)
The led tubes are pretty thin, but expensive. I'm not a fan of goose necks either. Whatever you decide, I bet it will look great.

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Old 09-11-2013, 12:24 PM
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Thanks for the update!!

It's always interesting to see the different things people come up with to grow orchids in the home. Very creative.
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Could you do track lighting spots of would that not be close enough to the plants?
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