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Old 08-21-2016, 06:31 AM
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Then this is the shade house before and after. There's now about 40 to 50 mounted orchids hanging in there plus half a dozen cymbidiums and all the thin leaves like cambrias, zygos, Miltonias, Odontoglossums and so on.


I have put in fencing mesh in the ceiling of the greenhouse, and I am going to have to work out how those mounts, plus 15 to 20 mounted catts are going to hang there, together with some pitcher plants, and all those hanging basket orchids

Now, what was that you were saying about wasted space?

You are right tho, I am pretty sure I can squeeze in just a few more....
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Nepenthes or sarracenia?
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Old 08-21-2016, 11:35 AM
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Nepenthes or sarracenia?
Both. The sarracenia trumpets are deadly for flies, in all the time I have had carnivorous plants, NOTHING has has a kill rate like them.

The nerpenthes are a bit fragile here. Dunno if it's the heat. I have a couple doing OK, but most have died. Shame, I would like one that had coloured pitchers that stood out, but the ones I have are all green.
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Both. The sarracenia trumpets are deadly for flies, in all the time I have had carnivorous plants, NOTHING has has a kill rate like them.

The nerpenthes are a bit fragile here. Dunno if it's the heat. I have a couple doing OK, but most have died. Shame, I would like one that had coloured pitchers that stood out, but the ones I have are all green.
Ever grow Drosophyllum lusitanica?
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For Southern Spain you'll probably need a low land nepenthes, how cold are your winters? How humid is it?
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For Southern Spain you'll probably need a low land nepenthes, how cold are your winters? How humid is it?
Well, the greenhouse isn't allowed to go below 10C which is about 53 - 55F and usually doesn't go below 12C 58F

Outside, nights can go below zero. Humidity? Not bone dry. Things need a lot of water, but there is a decent level of humidity.


Know any suitable Nerps with coloured pitchers?

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40-43C... Miltonia... Odondtoglossum... Zygo.... But your nights cool down. I think that is it.

I've been told Nepenthes absolutely require constant high humidity to pitcher. The ones I see in people's collections here don't pitcher, and don't look so good, even though they're in greenhouses.

Sounds like you need some Cyrtopodium, Eulophia and Oeceoclades.
They would do well here you reckon? While the day time hits 40 regularly, nights are about 20. The Nerps that are growing ok are also pitchering, so we must have reasonable humidity.

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Meh, I did grow some cape sundews, but by god did they take up space. Also, while they pulled in the tiny flies and ants, they didn't touch the flies that are the real nuisance. We get house flies that irritate, and stable flies that look like house flies but bite like a bastard.
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Both. The sarracenia trumpets are deadly for flies, in all the time I have had carnivorous plants, NOTHING has has a kill rate like them.

The nerpenthes are a bit fragile here. Dunno if it's the heat. I have a couple doing OK, but most have died. Shame, I would like one that had coloured pitchers that stood out, but the ones I have are all green.
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Well, the greenhouse isn't allowed to go below 10C which is about 53 - 55F and usually doesn't go below 12C 58F

Outside, nights can go below zero. Humidity? Not bone dry. Things need a lot of water, but there is a decent level of humidity.


Know any suitable Nerps with coloured pitchers?

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They would do well here you reckon? While the day time hits 40 regularly, nights are about 20. The Nerps that are growing ok are also pitchering, so we must have reasonable humidity.

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Meh, I did grow some cape sundews, but by god did they take up space. Also, while they pulled in the tiny flies and ants, they didn't touch the flies that are the real nuisance. We get house flies that irritate, and stable flies that look like house flies but bite like a bastard.
Uh huh, you grew capensis. Hmmmmmm....... to put our interchange in perspective, perhaps a different analogy is in order. Pretend we were discussing German cars, and I asked if you ever driven a Porsche, and you replied that you had driven a Trabant......Drosophyllum is not Drosera!
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Uh huh, you grew capensis. Hmmmmmm....... to put our interchange in perspective, perhaps a different analogy is in order. Pretend we were discussing German cars, and I asked if you ever driven a Porsche, and you replied that you had driven a Trabant......Drosophyllum is not Drosera!
You are quite right. The one is not the other, but that wasn't what I meant so much as they both use the same sort of techniques to trap prey.

What were you going to suggest about Drosophyllum?
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As for Sarracenia, they're definitely gluttons haha
I think the only thing that beats them might be Drosophyllum which i think are native either near you or a bit further north
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40-43C... Miltonia... Odondtoglossum... Zygo.... But your nights cool down. I think that is it.

I've been told Nepenthes absolutely require constant high humidity to pitcher. The ones I see in people's collections here don't pitcher, and don't look so good, even though they're in greenhouses.

Sounds like you need some Cyrtopodium, Eulophia and Oeceoclades.
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