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AussieVanda 07-02-2015 03:01 AM

I was starting to think that the plant should be renamed
Amesiella procrastinator! I'm glad that most at least are getting some progress, albeit a tad slow for some. Is anyone having major problems?

camille1585 07-02-2015 03:42 AM

And an update on mine: Still NOTHING happening!!!!

For the people who are actually getting growth of any sort, what temp/humidity/light/watering are your plants getting?

I'm afraid that if my plant doesn't do anything this summer, it's going to sit there until next spring, since in the winter the conditions aren't as nice (for instance I don't supplement with artificial light, though maybe I should.

AussieVanda 07-02-2015 04:55 AM

Too easy, my averages are
70% humidity. 17deg(C) night and 26deg(C) day. Medium shade, no direct light at any stage. I water heavily every morning now for 10 minutes and that's all, as it is now my dry season. I have now cut back fertiliser also to half strength once a week.

I use an open, course media consisting of volcanic rock and charcoal for quick drying and ample airflow.

theloyalplum 07-02-2015 05:58 AM

Happy to report that nothing bad has happened in the past week, ableit nothing good either. Switched to brand new, fluffy NZ sphag. Temps ~65F night, 75F day. No fert til I see new growth and roots; heavy on the seaweed until then. Leaves are pleasantly succulent. Shaded by my den. spectabile all day. Crossing my fingers something will happen!

nenella 07-02-2015 07:02 AM

Mine and mothers (which I am looking after till I see her at Xmas)
- baby leaves growing
- one root on each growing longer (the thickest ones)
Humidity between 70% and 88%
Temp @ low 26C and high at 27C for last 3 days ( heat wave) otherwise never below 20C
In terrarium
No direct light. Terrarium in W facing window.
Plants on terracotta mounts standing permenantly in
1 to 2 cm of water and get laid into the water once a day till all roots green up. None of the roots touch the water when stood up. Hope this makes sense?

gngrhill 07-02-2015 08:23 PM

new leaf is growing, roots are growing. 85 degree days under the T5s, about 15 inches from the light. 65 degree nights water every morning. Fert monthly. Fans running 24/7.

Cntry 07-03-2015 02:56 PM

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I promised I would get my pictures up of my project plant. My roots look good but I think I may add a extra day watering this one. It was used to a lot of water when Ray was caring for them so I may end up changing its care a little bit. I also placed it outside in the green house on cooler days. The rest of the time it stays on my end table in the living room. I have a covered front porch so there is no direct light on it. The window is one of the biggest I have and gets the most light through it.

No-Pro-mwa 07-03-2015 05:10 PM

Well I started out putting it in my north facing window in the kitchen where I have the humidifier for my Masdes. We have been having way more humidity than we usually have so that has been good. The temps were in the 60's up to lower 70's at first. Now I have moved into my spare bedroom that is a storage room for now. It has gotten much warmer so now it may get into the upper 60's at night but 70's in the day time. At least what I have checked as of yesterday.

I gave it seaweed when I re-potted it and at least one other time maybe more. I let it get almost dry before I water it again. But not to the point where the roots get gray.

Leafmite 07-04-2015 10:26 AM

Mine is hanging with the Angraecum didieris and Angraecum elephantinum and getting treated the same as they are. I gave it water with a nice dose of MSU fertilizer/Ironite/powdered milk since we had been having constant rain along with higher temperatures and the Angraecums needed a little boost. My monticola just gets whatever care they get as I tend to forget that it isn't one of them while I am watering.

AussieVanda 07-04-2015 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 761537)
Mine is hanging with the Angraecum didieris and Angraecum elephantinum and getting treated the same as they are. I gave it water with a nice dose of MSU fertilizer/Ironite/powdered milk since we had been having constant rain along with higher temperatures and the Angraecums needed a little boost. My monticola just gets whatever care they get as I tend to forget that it isn't one of them while I am watering.

Great minds thinking alike? :rofl:

Mine is alongside some of the Angraecums as well. (Didieri, crassum and an Aeranthes gradiflora)

dendro king 07-05-2015 01:24 AM

Mine has grown very fast, I think it likes the hot humid weather in my shade house.

Mandy2705 07-05-2015 01:42 AM

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I am almost positive that this is a spike, it has the mitten shape but hasn't gotten grown much since then. I followed advice of listing it sit in a bit of water till the spaghnum soaked up the water. I only do this early in the morning. The nights are really cool in Colorado lately so I don't know if the plant likes it that much? The leaves look great, very succulent-like. The roots still get nice and green when moist. Still doing very good but man o man does it grow really slow.

Skycat 07-05-2015 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dendro king (Post 761630)
Mine has grown very fast, I think it likes the hot humid weather in my shade house.

Mine's barely doing anything. Perhaps I should put it outside. The orchids I've got outside have been loving the weather (which took a while for me to notice because many recent days have been quite human-unfriendly weather).

RandomGemini 07-05-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dendro king (Post 761630)
Mine has grown very fast, I think it likes the hot humid weather in my shade house.


This is why I am going to move mine into my terrarium, I think. Warm and humid in there. It's happy, but it's growing slowly.

My Green Pets 07-05-2015 02:21 PM

--My conditions outdoors in shade house--

Temperature high/low: 30/23°C (86/73°F)
Humidity: 70 - 85%
Max light: ~15000 lux / 1500 footcandles, duration ~14 hours
Medium: loose sphagnum moss
Fertilizer: Miracle Gro orchid fertilizer 30-10-10, ¼ teaspoon per gallon twice a month
Water: moss stays moist, sometimes wet
Companion plants: Paphs, Phals

Leafmite 07-05-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieVanda (Post 761597)
Great minds thinking alike? :rofl:

Mine is alongside some of the Angraecums as well. (Didieri, crassum and an Aeranthes gradiflora)

Almost bought the grandiflora...someday. :)

No-Pro-mwa 07-06-2015 11:45 AM

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I am almost positive that this is a spike, it has the mitten shape but hasn't gotten grown much since then. I followed advice of listing it sit in a bit of water till the spaghnum soaked up the water. I only do this early in the morning. The nights are really cool in Colorado lately so I don't know if the plant likes it that much? The leaves look great, very succulent-like. The roots still get nice and green when moist. Still doing very good but man o man does it grow really slow.

Yesterday as I was watering mine I noticed something strange also. I got a picture of it but am having to recharge my battery. It doesn't look like the new root that's coming out but I am also not going to hold my breath :rofl:

Mandy2705 07-06-2015 07:26 PM

Yay! Crossing my fingers for a spike :D

No-Pro-mwa 07-07-2015 01:02 PM

I looked again today and it is starting to look like a root. I couldn't really believe it could be a spike so soon any who
:banana: another root is good. I'm just happy it is doing something. I can't find my cord to upload pictures, so no pics today.

I sure hope your is though wouldn't that be fun.

Mandy2705 07-07-2015 08:16 PM

I will have to get my camera and take a pic and upload on my computer so it will be much clearer. Maybe sometime this week :)

No-Pro-mwa 07-08-2015 12:07 PM

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Alrighty then found the cord. I'm going to put up pics when I first got it and now. Still don't know if it's a root or not but I'm just going to guess root.

The first 2 are when I got it.

My Green Pets 07-08-2015 05:24 PM

Looking good, no-pro-mwa!

In other news, mine has been attacked by a critter!

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...ccec215eca.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...6b19019c99.jpg

Can you believe it left all my other plants alone and went straight for this baby leaf? What a creep. Anyway. I sprayed everything with permethrin and sprinkled slug pellets all around.

gngrhill 07-08-2015 11:18 PM

Bummer, little brats

AussieVanda 07-09-2015 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa (Post 762346)
Alrighty then found the cord. I'm going to put up pics when I first got it and now. Still don't know if it's a root or not but I'm just going to guess root.

The first 2 are when I got it.

Root for sure, good looking plant!

No-Pro-mwa 07-09-2015 12:49 PM

Cambria sorry about your plant, they know just where they can really get you.

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Originally Posted by AussieVanda (Post 762467)
Root for sure, good looking plant!

I'm sure it is, it's just not growing as fast as the other one. But that is probably because we have had a cold front and it's been slowed down.

Leafmite 07-12-2015 04:11 PM

I just received kelp/seaweed stuff from Amazon and so my monticola is trying it out, along with the other orchids. The stuff is not supposed to smell but either my nose is sensitive or that might have been a little fib.

gngrhill 07-12-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 763100)
I just received kelp/seaweed stuff from Amazon and so my monticola is trying it out, along with the other orchids. The stuff is not supposed to smell but either my nose is sensitive or that might have been a little fib.

I think they'd have trouble selling it if they said," This stuff works really good, but it does kind of stink .":rofl:

No-Pro-mwa 07-13-2015 12:52 AM

I don't so much notice the seaweed but I can tell you the inocucor sure does smell.

Leafmite 07-14-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 763122)
I think they'd have trouble selling it if they said," This stuff works really good, but it does kind of stink .":rofl:

Probably. I use some other fertilizers, though, that are also pretty bad...always outside, though.

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Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa (Post 763176)
I don't so much notice the seaweed but I can tell you the inocucor sure does smell.

What exactly is inocucor?
If the product works as everyone says it is, maybe soon I will have new roots to report...something at least. My project plant needs to be a little more exciting to compete with the Angraecums (now that is sad).

AussieVanda 07-15-2015 12:36 AM

I am now getting better progress. The new leaf is getting bigger faster and also existing root growth seems to have increased. A new root is also starting off the stem.

What has changed for me is the temperature difference between night and day. Australia has sustained an Antarctic blast right across the country resulting in lower than usual temps. My night time temps are getting down to 12C (53.6f) whilst day times are hovering around 25C (77f).

It may be the case that this plant likes temperature variance.

Tschimm 07-15-2015 02:42 AM

25C with an Antarctic blast... I'm jealous:-)

I recently checked the weather for Cairns and was wondering why it is so cold at night. Now I know
(I was traveling from Cairns to Brisbane some time ago and since then, Queensland is in my weather app :-)

AussieVanda 07-15-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tschimm (Post 763485)
25C with an Antarctic blast... I'm jealous:-)

I recently checked the weather for Cairns and was wondering why it is so cold at night. Now I know
(I was traveling from Cairns to Brisbane some time ago and since then, Queensland is in my weather app :-)

Nice, how long ago? Did you manage to get out to the reef?

No-Pro-mwa 07-15-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 763402)
Probably. I use some other fertilizers, though, that are also pretty bad...always outside, though.

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What exactly is inocucor?
If the product works as everyone says it is, maybe soon I will have new roots to report...something at least. My project plant needs to be a little more exciting to compete with the Angraecums (now that is sad).

It's that new plant solution Ray is selling it has beneficial microbes in it. I mix it sometimes with the seaweed.

judith_arquette 07-15-2015 10:53 AM

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Pleased with the progress of my new leaf's growth. I haven't seen any new root growth but the roots it came with still have green tips so I'm considering that a win. I'm honestly surprised that I haven't killed it yet but its actually doing well :)

Leafmite 07-15-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AussieVanda (Post 763478)

It may be the case that this plant likes temperature variance.

Then it should love it here. Our temperatures vary daily without apparent rhyme or reason. There can be a 10'C temperature change from one day to the next (thunderstorms cool things rapidly here...not sure how it can be cool today and very hot tomorrow, though). :|

gngrhill 07-15-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 763540)
Then it should love it here. Our temperatures vary daily without apparent rhyme or reason. There can be a 10'C temperature change from one day to the next (thunderstorms cool things rapidly here...not sure how it can be cool today and very hot tomorrow, though). :|

Our temps are also crazy this year. It is dropping into the mid to upper 50s (F) and highs have been 80 to 90 (F). Now that's a temp differential :rofl:

No-Pro-mwa 07-16-2015 11:11 AM

Ours as well. We have another cold front coming in this weekend. It's Ok with me I don't do so well in the heat.

gngrhill 07-16-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa (Post 763680)
Ours as well. We have another cold front coming in this weekend. It's Ok with me I don't do so well in the heat.

I agree with that. I am loving these cool nights. I think the chids are enjoying it too.

Cntry 07-17-2015 01:39 PM

I have two of the Amesiella monticola orchids. I have what looks like a new leaf forming on the one I have inside. The one outside in my greenhouse just lost a yellow leaf today. But the roots look good, I think it is just taking longer to adjust to the new environment. Will get a picture up again soon.

LovePhals 07-17-2015 02:43 PM

Yep, Mandy yours definitely looks like a spike. Mine is also doing well it's newer leaf is almost done growing and I still have a green root tip skimming the medium. I have it in medium light with my phals and am trying to increase humidity I placed in inside a taller plastic cup. It seems to like that!


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