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Leafmite 10-10-2015 02:12 PM

Sorry to hear. I hope mine will make it. I tried putting it under the lights but the roots became too dry so it has moved to a window.

gngrhill 10-10-2015 05:00 PM

I have mine in a fish bowl with lava rock and water in the bottom. It still is alive, but I won't say thriving. It's still under the t-5s and I am wondering if it is just too hot for it. It is still getting up to 80 F in the daytime under the lights , and is only getting down to 60F overnight. Maybe a window is the way to go.

judith_arquette 10-10-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 775273)
I have mine in a fish bowl with lava rock and water in the bottom. It still is alive, but I won't say thriving. It's still under the t-5s and I am wondering if it is just too hot for it. It is still getting up to 80 F in the daytime under the lights , and is only getting down to 60F overnight. Maybe a window is the way to go.

I think it's definitely worth trying...

ddivey36 10-11-2015 12:54 PM

I'm out. Mine died. Was in a terrarium and I thought I had done all the right things.

cbuchman 10-11-2015 04:42 PM

I have mine on a Kool-log and it is in spike :)

I had mine outside over the summer and it disn't seem to mind the heat

Lots of good air movement and steady moisture

shadytrake 10-12-2015 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cbuchman (Post 775410)
I have mine on a Kool-log and it is in spike :)

I had mine outside over the summer and it disn't seem to mind the heat

Lots of good air movement and steady moisture

I have one Kool log left and am thinking about mounting it. It is doing a wee bit better in the terrarium, but not as well as I would like. I'm going to pull it out and inspect it when the sun comes up.

gngrhill 10-12-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by estación seca (Post 774036)
I don't know what your conditions are, but in habitat it is cool by day and cooler at night, and very humid. Back on the second page or so somebody posted a link to an Australian publication with detailed information.

I didn't realize it was such a cool grower, so now it's outside, fish bowl and all. It's been going down into the 40s F at night and 60s during the day. The problem out there is getting enough light without burning it.

RandomGemini 10-13-2015 11:36 AM

Mine's doing well. I'm fairly sure that it's in spike. I'll grab a couple of pics of it today. I have it growing in a window sill next to my masdies. For me, this is a plant that needs regular attention, so I can't grow it under lights. It won't stay wet enough, but my terrarium is way too wet for it. The compromise is turning out to be my kitchen windowsill. It's south facing. I water it every two or three days with tap water until there is water standing in the saucer under the plant. When that evaporates completely, I'll wait a day or so, then water again. I've fertilized it twice, I think.

Tim P. 10-16-2015 12:59 AM

I figured I would chime in here... :)

My plant has put out almost a complete leaf now and is sending out a spike :) WOOHOO

To tell you the truth, I feel bad. A lot of you have tried so hard with this plant and havent had good luck... I must have the perfect location. It doesn't get babied at all. I water it once a week in its two inch pot. It is currently in bark. I am wondering if it likes to be on the dryer side? Who knows.

LovePhals 10-17-2015 12:43 AM

I am also sorry to hear so many people are having issues with amesiella. Mine is still doing well but still no spike. How low are your temps of those of you that have spiking plants? This must be the time of year for them. I keep thinking my plant is swelling around the crown but I think it is wishful thinking. I am happy to report my new leaf though and it's alive!

reliablefool 10-17-2015 10:34 AM

Mine grows very slowly, so yours may very well be swelling. Mine is in my bathroom and stays anywhere from 60s-80s depending on the day. I don't think it is enjoying the hotter days as much because it is looking slightly stressed (older leaves wrinkling but it could just be their time).

gngrhill 10-17-2015 06:36 PM

Mine still shows no sign of spiking, but it does have the tiniest nub of a new root growing. Any growing is good enough for me now. Maybe it will spike this winter with the cooler temps.

shadytrake 10-18-2015 06:15 AM

I lost one of the three, but the other two are bouncing back. I keep doing research on the in situ region and climate to make adjustments. I think I am getting better at it. They like my daily fogging into the terrarium. I think I might put a light above them to see if that will inspire growth.

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This is the light I am thinking of for above the terrarium. A MOS member did a presentation on building a growth chamber and he grows incredible orchids in a "refrigerator" converted to a growth chamber. http://www.led-grow-master.com/files...ow-Lights2.pdf

RandomGemini 10-25-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LovePhals (Post 776249)
I am also sorry to hear so many people are having issues with amesiella. Mine is still doing well but still no spike. How low are your temps of those of you that have spiking plants? This must be the time of year for them. I keep thinking my plant is swelling around the crown but I think it is wishful thinking. I am happy to report my new leaf though and it's alive!


I'm growing mine indoors, but the heat does go off at night. I think the lowest it gets to is 62 degrees. Mine is in a spot where I grow dendrobiums. It gets a lot of light. My Dendrobium Unicum is sitting beside it in bloom right now. Humidity doesn't seem to be a major issue for it. I'm not going out of my way to maintain humidity for it.

Wynn Dee13 10-26-2015 12:29 AM

I'm not participating in this project, but I used to grow this plant and it does grow very very slow. I think it's the slowest growing orchid I have ever owned and all parts grow slow. Leaves, roots, and spikes. The flower nubs can stall too and start growing again. Good luck and I will follow along to watch for flowers! They are beautiful! I think I should get another one. :)

gngrhill 10-26-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wynn Dee13 (Post 777500)
I'm not participating in this project, but I used to grow this plant and it does grow very very slow. I think it's the slowest growing orchid I have ever owned and all parts grow slow. Leaves, roots, and spikes. The flower nubs can stall too and start growing again. Good luck and I will follow along to watch for flowers! They are beautiful! I think I should get another one. :)

When I was at Marlow's Orchids yesterday Jim had one , in spike, I had to slap myself to keep from buying it :biggrin:. I'm determined to grow the one I have.

Leafmite 10-26-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 777531)
When I was at Marlow's Orchids yesterday Jim had one , in spike, I had to slap myself to keep from buying it :biggrin:. I'm determined to grow the one I have.

I often do buy multiples of favorite orchids but I am not tempted to get another of these. I like plants that are a bit more exciting than this. Since I moved the little orchid inside, it seems to have taken a break from root or leaf growth. The only thing that is happening now is that one of the bottom leaves is dying. Yay. Exciting. Maybe I will have to start dosing it with the kelp mixture once a month.

gngrhill 10-26-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafmite (Post 777582)
I am not tempted to get another of these. I like plants that are a bit more exciting than this. Since I moved the little orchid inside, it seems to have taken a break from root or leaf growth. The only thing that is happening now is that one of the bottom leaves is dying. Yay. Exciting.

I agree with you on that one....waiting is hard enough for the ones that you can actually see the difference. This thing never moves. :(
Interesting point, everyone on OB says it's a cool grower, when I was at Marlow's yesterday we talked about it and he says it's a warm grower. :biggrin:
I have not really researched it myself, but you have to wonder........
I did research my new Max. tenuifolia, and one website tells you to keep it wet, very wet ; and other sites tell you it likes to dry out between watering ??? How are you supposed to figure these things out ??

estación seca 10-26-2015 05:32 PM

Cool and warm mean different things to different people in different climates with different growing conditions.

Mandy2705 10-26-2015 06:04 PM

Hmmm interesting little nubbin. It's growing out right next to a root. Maybe it's a new root? It's right at the end of my fingernail in the photo. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...2a6dca1164.jpgAlso, the nubbin which I am 90% sure it's a spike has maybe a root growing right next to it? This orchid is definitely one of my most interesting orchids :)http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...d9ccafdbc1.jpg


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Leafmite 10-26-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 777593)
I agree with you on that one....waiting is hard enough for the ones that you can actually see the difference. This thing never moves. :(
Interesting point, everyone on OB says it's a cool grower, when I was at Marlow's yesterday we talked about it and he says it's a warm grower. :biggrin:
I have not really researched it myself, but you have to wonder........
I did research my new Max. tenuifolia, and one website tells you to keep it wet, very wet ; and other sites tell you it likes to dry out between watering ??? How are you supposed to figure these things out ??

The max-ten is an easy one. You can put it in any open medium (NZ sphagnum, bark, lava rock, LECA) and it grows. It prefers Cattleya light and to be watered regularly to bloom but it will survive neglect and shade (mine certainly has--though it doesn't bloom/doesn't bloom well). I put mine in red lava rock long ago and then buried it in more red lava rock when it got too crazy. It probably needs divided and reburied but as I hate re-potting, we'll see when that happens.

Speaking of re-potting, I think I am going to remove my project plant from the mount and put it in a net pot with some LECA. I plan to do the same to the Angraecum didieri orchids this evening so I might as well. :|

Wynn Dee13 10-26-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandy2705 (Post 777601)
Hmmm interesting little nubbin. It's growing out right next to a root. Maybe it's a new root? It's right at the end of my fingernail in the photo. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...2a6dca1164.jpgAlso, the nubbin which I am 90% sure it's a spike has maybe a root growing right next to it? This orchid is definitely one of my most interesting orchids :)http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10...d9ccafdbc1.jpg


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That is a spike nuben! They look just like Angraecum Didieri nuben spikes if you have one of those. The spike nubens grow slow too though! Congrats!

ETA: I think that is a root coming out too. My didieri almost always grows a root out the same place as the spike. The two species look and grow similarly.

judith_arquette 10-26-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 777593)
I agree with you on that one....waiting is hard enough for the ones that you can actually see the difference. This thing never moves. :(
Interesting point, everyone on OB says it's a cool grower, when I was at Marlow's yesterday we talked about it and he says it's a warm grower. :biggrin:
I have not really researched it myself, but you have to wonder........
I did research my new Max. tenuifolia, and one website tells you to keep it wet, very wet ; and other sites tell you it likes to dry out between watering ??? How are you supposed to figure these things out ??

It got full sun (eastern) until early afternoon and I kept it in a dish of shallow water and the darn thing bloomed all summer/early fall for me. Not sure if winter care is different because I got it in the spring. I tried letting it dry out a little between waterings per the AOS website directions but I definitely noticed that the pbulbs would start to shrivel when I did...

hiimisis 10-26-2015 07:49 PM

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I have a little spike growing on mine. I basically neglect it so I can't really say what made it to decide to put out a spike :)

gngrhill 10-26-2015 08:05 PM

looks like a spike.

cbuchman 10-26-2015 08:10 PM

Looks like a spike is starting to me :) Good job!

reliablefool 10-27-2015 10:34 AM

These spikes are excruciatingly slow! It's a good thing we all have other plants to focus on as well.

judith_arquette 10-27-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by reliablefool (Post 777677)
These spikes are excruciatingly slow! It's a good thing we all have other plants to focus on as well.

Agreed! Mine doesn't seem to have grown since I first noticed it... It has begun putting out another new leaf tho so maybe it's stalled due to that.

No-Pro-mwa 10-27-2015 11:41 AM

Well mine is growing a new leaf. I am so relieved perhaps it is going to survive the fungus problem.

gngrhill 10-27-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by judith_arquette (Post 777613)
It got full sun (eastern) until early afternoon and I kept it in a dish of shallow water and the darn thing bloomed all summer/early fall for me. Not sure if winter care is different because I got it in the spring. I tried letting it dry out a little between waterings per the AOS website directions but I definitely noticed that the pbulbs would start to shrivel when I did...

Thanks, Judith. I repotted it in a basket. I lined it with SM and then filled it with leca. That way I can dunk it into my bucket of rain water every day and then I put it in a dish while it's still dripping so it's got a little water in the dish. I have it under the t-5s in the corner where it also gets some late afternoon sun on it. Looks happy so far :biggrin:

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I have some awesome news..... that little nubbin that I thought was a new root has grown a "thumb". Definitely has a "mitten" shape now. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin::dance::dance13:

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I have some awesome news..... that little nubbin that I thought was a new root has grown a "thumb". Definitely has a "mitten" shape now. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin::dance::dance13:

judith_arquette 10-27-2015 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gngrhill (Post 777721)
Thanks, Judith. I repotted it in a basket. I lined it with SM and then filled it with leca. That way I can dunk it into my bucket of rain water every day and then I put it in a dish while it's still dripping so it's got a little water in the dish. I have it under the t-5s in the corner where it also gets some late afternoon sun on it. Looks happy so far :biggrin:



I have some awesome news..... that little nubbin that I thought was a new root has grown a "thumb". Definitely has a "mitten" shape now. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin::dance::dance13:

I bet it'll LOVE being under the lights! :biggrin:

AWESOME!!!!:cheer::banana::cheer:

Leafmite 10-27-2015 11:09 PM

It is great to hear the good news!
First, an orchid that looked bad getting a new leaf and now we have another that is spiking. Congratulations to both of you!

judith_arquette 11-14-2015 10:48 AM

Anyone have any updates? My spike seems to be completely stalled...still nice and green but if it's grown at all I can't tell. The bottom leaf yellowed and dropped but the 2nd new leaf it's put out is growing nicely. It still has 7 healthy looking leaves so I'm not too concerned about it dropping the bottom one.

My Green Pets 11-14-2015 11:45 AM

Sure here's an update on mine. New leaf almost grown out, new root progressing, something trying to poke out towards the bottom. Keeping it cool, moist, and with morning dappled sun.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11...bf2773ece2.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11...fab4098023.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/11...1fadf1fe45.jpg

judith_arquette 11-14-2015 12:21 PM

Wow, looks great! Even the remainder of your slug eaten leaf looks really healthy! How much and what kind of light are you giving it?

My Green Pets 11-14-2015 09:09 PM

It gets 3-4 hours of dappled sunlight from a southeast window in the morning. Temperatures are in the upper teens C/ 60s F.

gngrhill 11-14-2015 11:27 PM

My spike has grown slightly, no new leaves, but the old ones are still looking good. Still goes outside in the daytime to get the cool temps and sunlight. Comes in at night if temps go below 40F .

No-Pro-mwa 11-15-2015 05:32 PM

I'm glad yours looks so good. Mine is trying to grow a new leaf but it's dropping the others. I think it is going to be a goner. Oh well. I do want to kill that orchid that gave it the fungus and me for not catching it in time.

Leafmite 11-15-2015 05:47 PM

I hope you can save it. :| Mine was looking a bit parched so I had to pot it and move it to a miniature greenhouse. It seems to have stabilized.

judith_arquette 11-15-2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by No-Pro-mwa (Post 780448)
I'm glad yours looks so good. Mine is trying to grow a new leaf but it's dropping the others. I think it is going to be a goner. Oh well. I do want to kill that orchid that gave it the fungus and me for not catching it in time.

Bummer :(


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