Summer project 2012- Plant suggestions

[stonedragonfarms]

I can see both points, but I agree with Camille on this one. We set out to find a genus or primary hybrids thereof that would be accessible to all. I think we should table the intergenerics for a possible project (or quickie project..?) and move ahead.
Just my 2c,
Adam

[FairyInTheFlowers]

Originally Posted by stonedragonfarms

I can see both points, but I agree with Camille on this one. We set out to find a genus or primary hybrids thereof that would be accessible to all. I think we should table the intergenerics for a possible project (or quickie project..?) and move ahead.
Just my 2c,
Adam

I actually like this idea. I think we should keep this specific project limited to the species and primary hybrids, and then do a separate "quickie project" that is wider in the terms of the project plant.

[Rowangreen]

Originally Posted by stonedragonfarms

We set out to find a genus or primary hybrids thereof that would be accessible to all.

Erm, actually I think the original idea was to open things up a bit to include groups of similar orchids that might not have been possible to include in previous projects, including hybrids. Read page one of this thread, and starting here where it was originally discussed.

Originally Posted by TheBlazingAugust

I actually like this idea. I think we should keep this specific project limited to the species and primary hybrids, and then do a separate "quickie project" that is wider in the terms of the project plant.

I thought this was the wider/quickie project! LOL

Again, if the group consensus is that it should be species and primaries only, then fine. Just a bit annoying I spent several hours researching Brassias and hybrids and Maudiaes. So am I really the only one that wants those options included? In both those cases it looks like if we keep it strictly to species and primaries then availability in budget will be a problem and they'll probably be ruled out.

[FairyInTheFlowers]

Originally Posted by Rowangreen

Erm, actually I think the original idea was to open things up a bit to include groups of similar orchids that might not have been possible to include in previous projects, including hybrids. Read page one of this thread, and starting here where it was originally discussed.



I thought this was the wider/quickie project! LOL

Again, if the group consensus is that it should be species and primaries only, then fine. Just a bit annoying I spent several hours researching Brassias and hybrids and Maudiaes. So am I really the only one that wants those options included? In both those cases it looks like if we keep it strictly to species and primaries then availability in budget will be a problem and they'll probably be ruled out.

No, originally this started as a regular Orchid Board project, where one species is selected, purchased, and grown by the participants. But, because there has been an increase in members participating, both in the US and internationally, it was proposed that instead of one species, we choose a group of species that fall within one section of a genus, such as the Hadrolaelias, rupiculous Laelias (previously genus Hoffmannseggella), or subgenus Parishianae of genus Phalaenopsis (lobbii, parishii, gibbosa, etc.) This was meant to increase the options while still providing for plants with very similar growth habits, so there is still some challenge in growing all of the options (which is why some of the uncommon groups are suggested). It wasn't until much later in this thread that the idea of widening the options to complex hybrids of a specific group was added. But for the sake of it still being a true OB Member's Project, I would also quickly reject this idea, as it makes it too broad, and will make it more likely to include the common plants that you could buy at a grocery store . I have always viewed the MP as being a chance for a group of people to get a plant that is usually not considered when people are searching through online vendors for something to buy, which is the final reason I don't agree with it being anything common. BUT, like I stated earlier, if there is enough interest, I don't see any issue with a group of people starting a project with a much wider view, such as Brassias, spotted Cattleya hybrids, etc, etc. And if people go for this, then your research is definitely not in vain.

[camille1585]

Originally Posted by Rowangreen

Erm, actually I think the original idea was to open things up a bit to include groups of similar orchids that might not have been possible to include in previous projects, including hybrids. Read page one of this thread, and starting here where it was originally discussed.

While that thread was originally intended to get ideas for this project, we ended up tossing out ideas for the spring project there. I did say that I liked your Brassia idea, true. But it was also before I had finished thinking out how the summer project would be. If you look at the first post of this thread, I mention that hybrids can be included, but to a limited extent. Maybe I should have specified it a bit more. I know that personally while I do like Brassias and Paph Maudiae types, I would like to buy species or primary hybrids, as I can get hybrids of those 2 types whenever I want from a zillion different shops.

The idea for this project originated in the last project actually, where we considered Bulbo sumatranum and lobbii to be the same for the purpose of the project. So I had been thinking of groups of orchids along those lines, as Cody explained very well.