Spring 2012 project- PLANT SUGGESTIONS

[silken]

Originally Posted by shadytrake

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I would love to have this one too. Paph armeniacum

It is intermediate. I think it runs a little more but I'm all for trying something different.

I think that $25 is a bit outdated for pricing of a good BS orchid. I'm on a budget too but most species BS lately start above $25 and go up. We might need to adjust our price to $30 for inflation.

Just my 2cents.

Yes, an armeniacum would make me happy!

[shadytrake]

Originally Posted by silken

Yes, an armeniacum would make me happy!

Here is the availability I have found so far for USA & Canada. If someone can look in EU. The prices range from below the target to some specialty growers higher priced.

USA
Clackamas has armeniacum, delenatii, and micranthum.
Andy's has armeniacum, delenatii
FV Gardens has delenatii & micranthum.
Carter & Holmes has delenatii
Piping Rock has armeniacum & delenatii
Hausermann has delenatii & micranthum
Woodstream has delenatii
EFG has delenatii
Marlows has armeniacum & delenatii
Orchid Inn has armeniacum, delenatii, & micranthum
Parkside has armeniacum, delenatii & micranthum
Orchids Limited has all three (Pricey)
Natt's has all three

Clackamas-Orchids Paphiopedilum and Phragmipedium

Andy's Orchids - Orchid Species - Species List in Alpha search

Forestview Gardens, Orchids for Sale - Paphiopedilum Species, Including Multi-Flowering Varieties

Carter and Holmes Orchids

Species Paphiopedilums - Choice selections for any collection

Orchids By Hausermann

Woodstream Orchids

Orchids: efg orchids

Orchids by Marlow - Paph Species

Orchid Inn, Ltd.

Paph Species

Orchids from Orchid Web

Paphiopedilum,Phragmipedium

CANADA
Paramount has armeniacum, delenatii, and micranthum
Clouds has micranthum
Orchids in our Tropics has delenatii

Species

Just Species !(updated on March 25, 2012 (Refresh))

Paphiopedilums - Orchids In Our Tropics

[camille1585]

Thanks for all that hard work!
I added delenatii to the list, but armeniacum is simply too expensive in Canada, They already have a higher price limit, but armeniacum is still well over $30! And it's also too expensive in the USA. Same issues for micranthum.

I agree that Paphs generally go for higher than $20 (at least on your side of the pond) but people joined the poject expecting the $20 that was set for the project, so it would be unfair to change it.

An idea would be to do a Paph only summer project (I'm willing to organize it if people are interested), and the price limit would reflect current Paph pricing.

[The Mutant]

About the Paph. purpuratum, now more have chimed in on Slippertalk and are agreeing with kavanaru, so I'm cool with it and super happy that I can vote for it again!

Now my only concern is to make sure the winning chid comes from Elsner here in Europe since I've a list of accompanying plants to go with it.

[Rowangreen]

Re price limits, someone (sorry for not checking back...) did say postage tends to rise over $25, making anything over a good bit more expensive. Maybe the limit could be put up to that? I think it's up to the US folks though in the end. While I think it's a bit unfair their limit is lower, we are getting a pretty good list, so it's not the end of the world LOL

Thanks to Shadytrake's seller list...

Max Variablis: Carter and Holmes near blooming (sound on the small side of that, though it is a small plant!) $16
Clackamas 'blooming size seedlings () $10
(Stll need Canadian for that)

Max Picta: Clackamas, seedlings in 2" pots, $7.50 (could these also be blooming sized seedlings?

And is (whatever) Cochleata on the list now...?

[camille1585]

I don't see anything unfair about the price limits. $20 for the US and 20€ for the EU. Orchids tend to be similarily priced in both, with the exception of a few genera (such as Paphs). And we have plenty of candidate plants, so why add in more expensive plants when we can easily vote among the cheaper ones?

As I said, at this point there will be no changing of price limits, to be fair to everyone who joined expecting these limits to be respected. The canadian price limit was changed at the very beginning only to reflect that orchids in general are more expensive there.

As for the Max variabilis (lowercase 'v' since it's a species, same for the others ) blooming size seedling is odd! I would assume that a plant can be a seedling, or it's blooming size. Not both.
At Carter and Holmes I'm afraid it may be too small (12-18 months from blooming)

If it can be found in Canada, then we can try to contact the US grower about the blooming size seedling thing.

[shadytrake]

Bulbophyllum sumatranum

I also found lasiochilum BS at Clouds in CAN
Also available in the EU.

IOSPE PHOTOSBulbophyllum sumatranum

USA
J&L orchids has both
Piping Rock has sumatranum
Andy's has lasiochilum
SBOE has lasiochilum

J&L Orchids ~ All Other Genera 1

CAN
Paramount has sumatranum
Clouds has lasiochilum and sumatranum
Orchids in our Tropics has sumatranum

Species

Bulbophyllums and Allies(updated on March 25, 2012 (Refresh))

Bulbophyllums - Orchids In Our Tropics

Andy's Orchids - Orchid Species - Power Search results

EU
Schwerter has both
Currlin has sumatranum
Akerne has lasiochilum
Orchidees Vacherot has lasiochilum
Wilhelm Hennis has lasiochilum

Naturformen - Orchideen und Orchideenzubehör der Schwerter Orchideenzucht

Bulbophyllum-www.currlin.com

Akerne Orchids: Bulbophyllum lasiochilum

Bulbophyllum lasiochilum 'rouge' - Les Orchidées de Michel Vacherot

Wilhelm Hennis Orchideen - Verkauf und Versand von Orchideen und Zubehör


Found lasiochilum at Paramount
labeled Cirr. lasiochilum $28 FS

Species

[Rowangreen]

I'm basically fine about the price limits, since, as you say, we're getting plenty of plants. So unless the Yanks vote on mass to up their limit, I'm fine with it staying.

However, being picky, it IS unfair. Canada has a higher limit because 'orchids cost more in Canada', but in fact in real terms if you are going by the limits, it's the folks in the EU who are potentially paying most. £20 GBP = $31.8226 US today apparently.

(Actually the difference is less from the Euro than last time I looked... currently about $26. I think the Euro is going to end up with the dollar by the look of it! LOL. I guess my argument might not be right by the time the poll is finished!)

[shadytrake]

I don't see that we have done Catts in the past.

C. loddigesii, bowringiana and guttata

Available in CAN & EU
I'm sure it's available in the USA *quite popular everywhere.

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[kavanaru]

Rowan green, I think you are missing the point here... Plants in Europe are normally on the range of up to 20€ and that independent of the exchange rate of £ or $... Same, in the USA most plants are cheaper than in Europe and 20$ is a good average... Canada on it's side has a higher average price... Simple as that...
UK also has higher average price than Countries in th Euro zone... But you can order from these countries as well, as most people in UK do...
So, I do not see the point of flaming not being fair...
Furthermore, as Camille (who, by the way, is doing a great job!) explained earlier and several times on this thread, these were the rules since the beginning, and many people joined based on that rule...