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Originally Posted by camille1585 (Post 332246)

I'd have to check, but I don't think that any of those are readily available in europe. Aussie orchids of any type are quite difficult to find, and many people rely on international orchid shows to find them, or wait for a vendor to import some once in a while.

They would be near impossible to find here in the US as well.

But there is a person in Australia who will sell worldwide.

If there is enough interest, it can be done relatively inexpensively.

Camille...

I forgot! Thelymitra hybrids and species are available in the EU!

www.myorchids.de

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Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 332257)

What plant(s) are you referring to?

i was referring the the kingianum

alright, thats sound intermediate to me

Those temperatures are intermediate for you?? I would call that COLD. While kingianum would be an intermediate grower the rest of the year, it won't do a thing without the cool winter. I've given up on my kingianums, I have nowhere bright and cool for them, an apartment is just not made for them. I've gotten one spike in 2 years.

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Originally Posted by help (Post 332270)

alright, thats sound intermediate to me

Bro...

Just to put it in perspective - 4 degrees F lower (32 F) and you'll get frost.

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Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 332235)

Not Aussie Dens, Nat.

Aussie terrestrials. ;)

Ahhh...now I get it. Certainly would make for an interesting project. :D

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Thelymitra
Diuris
Corybas
Caladenia (this one might be too much of a challenge though)
Leptoceras
Chiloglottis
Pterostylis and company

These would definitely be challenging to find. Pterostylis (nutans) is the only one I know I could get readily, but as it's not from a typical commercial source I don't know if other participants would have an easy time. NOW I see why you were suggesting importation... :lol:

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Although the other lithophytic Dens from Australia are more commonly available and they're mini's. The challenge is to find them within the price range allowed for the project. Most are over the limit.

Den kingianum is beautiful, but it's also a weed. I own one.

SBOE has a bunch of the Rhizobium Dens, some for under $20. Carolina Orchids has some for around $20, and I think Botanica Ltd. has a few in that price range, too. Definitely can't argue about kingianum, I recently got rid of my biggest one because it took up too much room and wasn't very fragrant.

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Den cucumerinum
Den linguiforme
Den wassellii
Den rigidum

Great suggestions! I have the latter two already (I think, the rigidum came to me NOID and I haven't bloomed it yet) but I'd love to eventually grow all four.

--Nat

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Originally Posted by King_of_orchid_growing:) (Post 332275)

Bro...

Just to put it in perspective - 4 degrees F lower (32 F) and you'll get frost.

well, i was thinking about it as 40* not 36. but, i supposed thats only 8* higher than freezing. and cant laelias stay out until its 45* i may be wrong, and probably am, but i had for some reason, thought that they could stay out until it gets down to 45* at night

if im wrong, im glad i figured out now, rather than later :)

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Originally Posted by help (Post 332285)

You're right. Some Laelias can handle temperatures as low as 40 F and sometimes 36 F, without a problem.

L. superbiens is one of them.

I wouldn't have a difficult time believing that L. anceps would be able to handle this low end temperature range just as well as L. superbiens.