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Austin Powers 06-19-2010 01:01 PM

I can report a new growth starting as well as new roots that have been growing well. I put my plant outside in late May. This seems to be going well other than a slight sunburn on a much warmer than usual day. Now I have it in a location where it gets morning sun and shade in the afternoon.
Stephen

Izzie 06-20-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Austin Powers (Post 322161)
I can report a new growth starting as well as new roots that have been growing well. I put my plant outside in late May. This seems to be going well other than a slight sunburn on a much warmer than usual day. Now I have it in a location where it gets morning sun and shade in the afternoon.
Stephen

That's great that you've had success! I'm sorry to see that we never replied to your question on the first page- it looks like it was resolved later. Have you decided if you're going to mount it now that it has new roots?

Mine is situated very similarly to yours, it seems to love the morning sun.
It also gets very bright indirect light later in the day that reflects off of the opposite (west) wall of the patio- something I didn't anticipate, but works out well!

What are your temperatures? CO generally has a 25-30* drop at night, which doesn't seem to bother the Laelia at all, but I wonder if other alliances would not be impressed....I would think that Canada might have similar conditions.

Austin Powers 06-20-2010 12:08 PM

I have decided not to repot/mount. There is just enough room for this growth in its current container.

Yes, we can easily have a 20 - 30F difference in temperature between the heat of the afternoon and the nightly lows. As long as there is no frost, I think they be just fine.
Cheers,
Stephen

Connie Star 06-21-2010 08:26 AM

My mounted L anceps is showing some root growth- I am keeping it next to a humidifier and soaking it in a bucket of rain water every 2 days or so. The potted one looks perfectly healthy and a leaf that was new when I got the plant is expanding.
I'm thinking about putting the mounted one outside. My DH is going to build me a shade house, but he ordered rough cut white oak for it which hasn't arrived yet- I told him I'd be happy with pressure treated lumber. Yesterday under the umbrella on the deck table it was a high of 99 degrees, 4000 fc. Is that too hot?

Izzie 06-21-2010 11:58 AM

I've read in several references that highs up to 100 don't phase L. anceps at all, and it can get a little warmer than that even in situ.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 06-21-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Connie Star (Post 322511)

Yesterday under the umbrella on the deck table it was a high of 99 degrees, 4000 fc. Is that too hot?

No.

King_of_orchid_growing:) 06-21-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzie (Post 322562)
I've read in several references that highs up to 100 don't phase L. anceps at all, and it can get a little warmer than that even in situ.

Yup.

peeweelovesbooks 06-22-2010 12:50 PM

I'm not participating in the project, but there was a discussion in another thread regarding direct sun v. indirect sun. Well, my anceps got direct sun last week and some of them got scorched leaves. Just wanted to report my experience.

Izzie 06-22-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by peeweelovesbooks (Post 322769)
I'm not participating in the project, but there was a discussion in another thread regarding direct sun v. indirect sun. Well, my anceps got direct sun last week and some of them got scorched leaves. Just wanted to report my experience.

That's entirely possible- did you slowly introduce it to full sun?
I'd think any plant would get scorched if it was exposed without acclimating it. (I'm not saying you did!)

I've slowly increased the amount of direct sun mine gets over the past two weeks, and it now gets full sun for ~6hours. The roots and leads have really taken off, and the leaves have brightened to a healthier green.

There's always exceptions, I see what you're saying.

peeweelovesbooks 06-22-2010 04:52 PM

Izzie,

No, they have been in the same place (top shelf) since I got them. The amount of sun has slowly increased due to it being the summer time here. So, they were in the same place as always.

So, I suppose full sun in PA or CO is not the same thing as full sun in Miami. :) I had to put my rupicolous Laelias up there and the anceps on a lower shelf where they are now getting filtered light.

:)

Call_Me_Bob 06-22-2010 05:07 PM

i guess full sun IS different for us than you, but idk what the differences would be

Izzie 06-22-2010 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by peeweelovesbooks (Post 322813)
Izzie,

No, they have been in the same place (top shelf) since I got them. The amount of sun has slowly increased due to it being the summer time here. So, they were in the same place as always.

So, I suppose full sun in PA or CO is not the same thing as full sun in Miami. :) I had to put my rupicolous Laelias up there and the anceps on a lower shelf where they are now getting filtered light.

:)

Wow- well just goes to show you! Even plants within species can be somewhat different...
I'm closer to the atmosphere here in the mile-high city, so my sun is somewhat stronger.
I'm sorry to hear yours burned.

peeweelovesbooks 06-22-2010 06:34 PM

Thanks. They will survive. I'm just waiting for them to show me who will turn brown and die and who will remain unattractive. :)

Lesson learned. :)

Call_Me_Bob 06-22-2010 09:43 PM

**update**
 
here is a recent pic of laela

anyone else have recent pics?

Izzie 06-23-2010 02:39 PM

Your pic isn't showing up.
Posted my update on previous page.

Call_Me_Bob 06-23-2010 02:46 PM

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oops! :blushing: i forgot the pics :blushing:

Connie Star 06-23-2010 08:41 PM

Looks good.

Call_Me_Bob 06-23-2010 10:12 PM

thanks! some one on this board told me to stop worrying about the roots. i forget who ( hey, its late! ) but they really helped me calm down

Call_Me_Bob 07-07-2010 12:40 PM

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I FOUND A BUNCH OF NEW ROOTS ON MY BIGGEST LEAD!!! AND I FOUND ANOTHER SMALL LEAD!!! SO THREE LEADS TOTAL. AND THERE ARE LIKE 5 NICE ROOTS ON MY LEAD.

nenella 07-07-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 325770)
I FOUND A BUNCH OF NEW ROOTS ON MY BIGGEST LEAD!!! AND I FOUND ANOTHER SMALL LEAD!!! SO THREE LEADS TOTAL. AND THERE ARE LIKE 5 NICE ROOTS ON MY LEAD.

Looking very very good!

Connie Star 07-07-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 325770)
I FOUND A BUNCH OF NEW ROOTS ON MY BIGGEST LEAD!!! AND I FOUND ANOTHER SMALL LEAD!!! SO THREE LEADS TOTAL. AND THERE ARE LIKE 5 NICE ROOTS ON MY LEAD.

Nice!:bowing

Call_Me_Bob 07-07-2010 06:48 PM

yay!! its the first roots growth ive gotten since repotting :) :P

flhiker 07-07-2010 08:18 PM

Congrats, It's never ceases to amaze me how any new growth can make our day.

Call_Me_Bob 07-07-2010 09:45 PM

i know lol :) today i found those roots, and a den. bloom!!

Becca 07-07-2010 10:27 PM

I too have new root growth....well just one new root so far on one of the new leads. I have two new leads, one started to rot at the tip before getting a chance to come out of its protective sheath. I did some careful surgery the other day and I think it may be ok, it just may not look as pretty. I'm really excited about the new root since it seems to have been stalling on doing much.

Call_Me_Bob 07-07-2010 10:47 PM

thats good

Erinmir 07-10-2010 11:42 PM

I have 2 new growths just plugging along on my Laelia, not as exciting as the Rhyn for the warm project though... its in full bloom right now. Laelia looks good and happy and healthy, hoping the new leads will produce blooms eventually though. :)

Call_Me_Bob 07-11-2010 10:44 PM

i believe so. good to here its still doing good

Izzie 07-12-2010 11:57 AM

I have about 20 new roots now on the old rhizome and the broken lead, and the two new leads off of that broken one are taking off too. Everyone's a little wilted since I went on vacation for a week and the housesitter wasn't as thorough as I'd like- but I suspect everyone will perk up after a good soak today.

Call_Me_Bob 07-12-2010 11:58 AM

wow!! yours is doin GREAT! wish mine was doing that good

flhiker 07-12-2010 02:33 PM

How are you caring for it Izzie? sounds like you got it right.

Izzie 07-12-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flhiker (Post 327011)
How are you caring for it Izzie? sounds like you got it right.

While CO was warming up to the last frost, it was being switched from a south to a west window everyday as the sun moved.
When I first got it, as usual, my biggest challenge was figuring out what it wanted for water. After watering it more and adding a sphag top dressing, it's pbulbs really plumped up.

And then when it graduated to outside- it REALLY took off. It's on a pretty warm, to hot patio where it gets a about 4 hours of direct morning to noon sun and very bright indirect light the rest of the day. No burning whatsoever- the plant has turned a beautiful dark lime green. About a 20* drop in temperature at night.

Another thing that helped- I very loosely piled sphag up to just against the bottom of the rhizome, since it sticks out of it's pot an inch or so because of it's long original roots. Still had air circulation, but that increased moisture along the rhizome really seemed to get some new roots sprouting in the older areas- the new leads didn't need much help, but the sphag dressing really got them to dig straight down instead of wandering.



It's potted in large bark/charcoal/perlite in a clay pot with one large drainage hole.

Also- I switched from Superthrive to a rooting solution that is kelp based. Almost immediate results- all of my plants, both orchid and garden ones alike, are putting out roots like nobody's business. And the outdoor garden plants seem to be dealing with our heat much better as well.

Izzie 07-12-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by flhiker (Post 325867)
Congrats, It's never ceases to amaze me how any new growth can make our day.

So very true. In all my hundreds of plants, every new growth is a celebration of the partnership we share.

It's one of the things that is hardest to explain to friends that don't have orchids. There is such a sense of profound accomplishment and pride (in both yourself and your plant!) when you see everyone's hard work paying off.
I think some growers forget that a lot of the work being put in is from the plant, not just the grower- so it's a personal success for them as well!
Unlike a lot of our terrestrial garden and bedding plants, these guys have to defy the odds and sort out how to thrive in environments that are often entirely different from how they are programmed to grow in. They adapt and figure it out- and everyone is rewarded!

Becca 07-12-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzie (Post 326963)
I have about 20 new roots now on the old rhizome and the broken lead, and the two new leads off of that broken one are taking off too. Everyone's a little wilted since I went on vacation for a week and the housesitter wasn't as thorough as I'd like- but I suspect everyone will perk up after a good soak today.

I just discovered new roots on the old rhizome back by the older back bulbs on mine too. I was amazed as I had never seen an orchid in this alliance do that before!

Call_Me_Bob 07-12-2010 09:41 PM

can you give me the link for that kelp product again? thanks

Izzie 07-12-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 327116)
can you give me the link for that kelp product again? thanks

Try searching.

for "kelp" on this board:
Orchid Board - Most Complete Orchid Forum on the web ! - Search Results

or Seaweed Rooting Solution, without quotes, on google:

"seaweed rooting solution" - Google Search

You should find lots of info there.

Or call your garden centers and ask if they have any rooting products that are kelp or seaweed based.

Call_Me_Bob 07-12-2010 11:36 PM

okay thanks!

Izzie 07-12-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by help (Post 327136)
okay thanks!

:) I hope someone near you has some!

Call_Me_Bob 07-13-2010 09:58 AM

i hope so too!! since its organic, isnt it hard to burn the root system with it? if so, that would be good for a klutz like me :)

Call_Me_Bob 07-13-2010 10:10 AM

is it ok to be watering mine once a day? its outside in a hanging basket with bark. and if i water everyday, its dry the next day


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