Nicole, the reason for these shipping cost is that they send via DHL (or at least they did in the past). as for other german nurseries, shipping costs are quite high because the new rates from the german post for express post. I know some are changing to normal post which is cheaper...

as for Currlin, I have ordered once from them. I must admit I was not impressed by the quality of the plants received. However, I know other people who has ordered from them and are very glad with their plants and service (I have seen many plants and they are much better than the ones I have received). So, in general, I would say they are good (even though I had the bad experience). They are also very well known in Germany.

FYI, is you find a plant for the project, which is not in EU but available by Orchids Limited, Jerry is coming to Europe end of September (Deadline for orders is 08-AUG-08 I think) and could bring plants for you. Important: if the selected plant is not Phalaenopsis, Cattleya, Paphiopedilum or Phragmipedium, then an order of at least 10 plants in the same genus must be placed. The reason for this is that UK has increased the fees per genus to imported to 59£. Jerry is bringing the 4 genera mentioned above, but all other genus will be brought only as per request (more than 10 plants, they cover the UK fees. Less than 10 plants, the fees will be shared on a per plant rate). Maybe you can have a look in thier catalogue too, and check if there is anything interesting for the project. Then send a message to them and check whether it is possible to order and for more detailed information on their trip to Europe.

Is it almost time for another chat? Maybe on the weekend like Saturday or Sunday morning so our EU friends may join in?

Or even on a Friday evening...so everyone can sleep in the next day? Can someone start posting the Orchidwiz growing data...I wish I had that program...sigh.

Yes! I was hoping that we would get some more Cool growing plant suggestions. The last few are ones I (which I'm not getting a cool grower) have added just to have help fill a poll.

How's Saturday @ 3:00pm EST. sound. And maybe we can keep it to a hour or so session. Many of us need to start dinner.
Let me know if this is good for you guy's and gal's?

Camille has graceously gone over the exiting list and add Orchidwiz info

------Plant------------------------ Vendor -----------TEMP---------Size-----------------------------IOSPE-----------------------------------------
1. Bulbo dearei -----*---------- (AO-PO-EV)---------W---------- OK------ IOSPE PHOTOS
2. Brassavola perrinii --*---------(AO-?-EV) ---------W---------OK------ IOSPE PHOTOS
3. Laelia anceps--------------- (OH-PO-EV)--------W---------OK------ IOSPE PHOTOS 76-78F day 60-61F night. Bright warm summers, but many areas not suitable. In those cases, they need cool moist air (like evaporative cooler)
4. Maxillaria tenuifolia---*--------(OH-PO-EV)-------W----------OK------http://www.orchidspecies.com/maxillariatenuifolia.htm grows to 24in. (but I think it’s slow to get that big)
5. Aerangis biloba---------------(JL-PO-EV)--------I----------OK--- IOSPE PHOTOS 78-88F day, 63-68F night, all year, hottest in winter. Seems like warm grower
6. Aerangis fastuosa----*--------(JL-PO-EV)--------I----------OK---http://www.orchidspecies.com/aerfastuosa.htm
7. Angraecum dideri--*------------(JL-PO-EV)--------I------OK---http://www.orchidspecies.com/angdidieri.htm intermediate-warm in summer, intermediate in winter.
8. Cirrhopetalum Lasiochilum--*--(JL-PO-EV)--------I-------OK--- http://www.orchidspecies.com/cirrhop...asiochilum.htm
9. Dendrobium atroviolaceum-*--(AO-PO-EV)------I--------?-----http://www.orchidspecies.com/denatroviolaceum.htm 8-17in
10. Baptistonia echinata---*------(AO-PO-EV)-------W------?------http://www.orchidspecies.com/echinatabtn.htm Leaves 7in, spike 10-18in High 70’s day, 63F night. Winter 66F day 53F night
11. Seidenfadenia mitrata--------(OH-?-EV)--------W-------?-----http://www.orchidspecies.com/seidenfadeniamitrata.htm Plants are commonly 12-16in long (pendant habit) but can grow up to 36in!

13. Encyclia polybulbon-----*-------(NFIC)-----------W-------OK----http://www.orchidspecies.com/encpolybulbon.htm Orchidwiz gives it more as being an intermediate grower: Summer 76day, 60night, and winter 73day 53night
14.Ascocentrum miniatum---*------(OBH-EV)----------W------OK-----http://www.orchidspecies.com/ascocminiatum.htm
15. Cochlioda vulcanica----*---------(AO-NFIE)------------C------OK-----http://orchidspecies.com/cochvulcanica.htm
16. Trisetella hoeijeri---*-------------(AO-EV)-----------C-------OK----http://orchidspecies.com/trishoejrii.htm
17. Phalaenopsis hieroglyphica------(?)-----------------I--------OK----http://www.orchidspecies.com/phalhierogliphica.htm WARM grower. Needs over 83 day temp even in rest period. High 80s’ summer. Lowest is 72F night temp during rest period. Leaves 12in (don’t know if that’s each leaf, or the total leaf span)
18. Baptistonia echinata---*-----(AO-)-----------------W--OK---http://www.orchidspecies.com/echinatabtn.htm already in list (#10)
19. Diplocaulobium aratriferum-----MO------------------W-----OK----http://www.orchidspecies.com/diplaratiferum.ht no OW info
20. Habenaria erichmichaelii--------AO-------------W----in bloom now---http://www.orchidspecies.com/habericmichael.htm no OW info
21. Dendrobium loddigesii----*-------AO-------------W-----------http://www.orchidspecies.com/denloddigesii.htm Intermediate grower I think. Summer is 75F day 67F night, and winter 55F day 46F night. Some growers say it needs cool (50F) dry winter to bloom
22. Maxillaria acutifolia--------------MO-NFIE-------w-----------http://www.orchidspecies.com/maxacutifolia.htm no OW info,
23. Maxillaria sophronitis----*--------AO-EV---------?------------http://www.orchidspecies.com/maxsophronituspl.htm Winter is warmer than summer. Summer is 76F day 59F night, winter is 80F day 54F night. I would put it as a warm grower since it needs the heat in the winter!
24. Sarcochilus hartmannii---*--------OH-EV--------W-----------http://www.orchidspecies.com/sarchartmanii.htm intermediate grower (and needs cool winter nights) summer: Near 78F day, 60F night Winter: 65F day 45F night. This one was put as intermediate when discussed in previous projects.
25. Dendrobium unicum---*-----------AO-EV---------W---------http://www.orchidspecies.com/dendrobiumunicum.htm
26. Dracula sodiroi-------------------AO-EV----------C---------http://www.orchidspecies.com/dracsoderoi.htm No OW info other than Cool/intermediate grower
27. Masdevallia herradurae---*-------AO-EV----------I----------http://www.orchidspecies.com/masherradurae.htm I think it’s warm grower based on OW. Year-round 83F day 59F night, these temps being the coolest in the habitat. Can be up to 8F warmer than indicated.
28. Bulbophyllum sumatranum--*---(OH,PO, La Canopée)----I----------------- IOSPE PHOTOS
29. Dendrobium tetragonum --*-----NFIA, Paramount,EU-----------------I--------- --------IOSPE PHOTOS
30. Laelia lundii------*---------- NFIA, PO, Claessen-----------I----------------- IOSPE PHOTOS
31. Podangis dactyloceras--*---(AO, PO- Nardotto------------I/Whttp://www.orchidspecies.com I/podangisdactyleceras.htm high side of intermediate, up to 80F in day temp.
32. Masdevallia dynastes---*----(AO,EV)---------------C----http://www.orchidspecies.com/masdynastes.htm
33. Masdevallia hieroglyphica--(AO,EV)---------------C----http://www.orchidspecies.com/mashieroglyphica.htm no OW info
34. Brakeria scandens----*----------(AO,EV)--------------C-----http://www.orchidspecies.com/barkscandens.htm needs coolish-cool nights all year round, but can take up to 85F in the summer days.
35. Masdevallia chaparensis---*-----(AO,EV)---------------C------http://www.orchidspecies.com/maschaparensis.htm
36. Masdevalia nidifica---*---------(AO,EV)---------------I------http://www.orchidspecies.com/masnidifica.htm On the cool side of intermediate. Needs about 55F at night year round
37. Masdevallia triangularis---*--------(AO,EV)--------------I-------http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masdevallia
38. Dracula gigas----------------------(AO,EV)------------C----http://www.orchidspecies.com/dracgigas.htm No OW info, other than it’s a COLD to COOL grower.

Sounds Cool to me! If my maths is right thats 9pm for EU?

- Thank you very much! :bowing

Thanks Nicole and Ramon for the info on Currlin. It was the only vendor in Europe that had a couple of plants I was interested in. I'll just try them as TC's.
Joann

Ill be coming back from a horse show and might miss the chat but I'll try to make it.

HI all, I will need some help from some of our Canadian friends to find availablity for the plants on the list ( First post of this thread). The list is getting shortened greatly because I'm unable to locate most of the suggested plants in your country. If you know of vendors other then Paramount or Clouds that may have some of these Please let me know . This will help add plants and speed up the project. And also keep me from stepping out in traffic. Not really! It would be a tremendous help. Thanks

You could try Orchids In Our Tropics (Home - Orchids In Our Tropics). I've bought from them before and was pleased with what I got.

I don't have time immediately to check their catalogue against the list posted here, but from previous browsings I know at least that they have the following:

Dendrobium loddigesii
Dendrobium tetragonum
Phalaenopsis hieroglyphica

They have a fairly extensive catalogue so they likely have more. If a price is listed with it then they have it in stock.

Tyler