Project Summer 2024 Paph primary hybrid

[camille1585]

I've narrowed down my search to 3 primaries. For those that know Paphs here, which is likely to be the most forgiving and not too slow growing? I do like delenatii crosses and am leaning towards the Deperle since it's multifloral (and sold in spike!).


Paph Helvetia (philippinense x chamberlainianum)
Paph Deperle alba form (primulinum x delenatii)
Paph Armeni White (armeniacum x delenatii)

Originally Posted by tmoney

we still owe you that keiki and we have one on the little sister that is may be ready. it has your name on it!

I have not forgotten about it, but might be good for you to hang on to them a bit longer! I had a disease wipe out most of my Phals over 2022-2023, and I'm not sure it's safe yet to be reintroducing Phals to the collection. I bought a couple Phals recently to act as the canaries in the coalmine, so now it's wait and see what happens to them.

[Roberta]

Originally Posted by camille1585

I've narrowed down my search to 3 primaries. For those that know Paphs here, which is likely to be the most forgiving and not too slow growing? I do like delenatii crosses and am leaning towards the Deperle since it's multifloral (and sold in spike!).


Paph Helvetia (philippinense x chamberlainianum)
Paph Deperle alba form (primulinum x delenatii)
Paph Armeni White (armeniacum x delenatii)

My success rate with Paphs isn't great. Aremeni White has been really forgiving though. When it blooms, the flower opens pale yellow, then becomes white as the pink pigment develops. Fairly fast-growing.

I would expect Helvetia to be slow, being multifloral. Deperle may be slow too, hybrids across sections tend to be slow, and also shy bloomers. (Paph primulinum is in section Cochliopedilum and delenatii is in Parvisepalum) Those are just my guesses, the last two I haven't grown.

[tmoney]

hey cam,

if it was us we would avoid anything with delenatii in it. that is one species that we have struggled badly with...and not just one...we have owned multiple from different vendors and we have only one left that finally is starting to stabilise a bit. they seem to need something different than the "usual" paphs and are slow to recover from mistakes.

also, personally i don't like to buy our paphs in bud or bloom cause every one we have done that with has blasted or dropped immediately. my feeling is that they don't like being in boxes as much as phals. or other genera.

but of course, this is only our opinion, buy the one YOU like the most!!!! they all look nice!

p.s. - the chamberlnmn is related to liemianum, which is one of our most vigorous paphs and as a sequential bloomer just opened up its 7th flower, carries 3 easily at any time, is carrying 2 swelling capsules, AND is putting on 3 new fans. a serious weed. so my vote is for option A, but please refer to my previous remark ,)