Various Grocery Store Specimens

[Kruegersc4]

Hello,

I'm looking for some ID help on these. I'm pretty new to orchids. I know which ones are in the Genus Phalaenopsis, but for the other two, even just the Genus would be great, but of course I would love to get as close as possible. And I know it's hard to know exactly, but any species or varieties that are similar to any of these would be great to know.

Thanks!

[jkofferdahl]

OK, we could list for you "close matches". but just because two Phal hybrids look familiar doesn't mean they even necessarily have similar parentage. The only way you'll possibly know the correct names of the plants is if you can find out who bred them, and ask the breeder. Otherwise they will always be NoIDs. But just because they're NoIDs doesn't mean they aren't pretty flowers!

The only time a name really matters is if you plant to breed the flowers.

[Kruegersc4]

Yeah, I'm not super concerned about the Phals, but I would at least like to know the Genus (and species if possible) of the other two. And I'm aware they will all probably forever be NoIDs, but I wouldn't mind knowing any true named look alikes.

[Roberta]

The other two are Ondidium-tribe intergeneric hybrids. The purple one looks like a Miltassia (Miltonia + brassia). The yellow one probably has Oncidium, Miltonia, and possibly one or two others of the group in it, I suspect. The care is the same for the two regardless of the variation on the theme... they can tolerate moderate cold (I grow mine outside in southern California near the coast, rarely goes below 35 deg F) but they can be happy at indoor temperatures as well. Bright indirect light. They need well drained media (chance are they need potting) that stays a bit damp (like small bark). While they need to dry out a bit between waterings but not go completely dry.

Forum members more knowledgeable than I am may be able to guess at the names (they're not species) but it will be a guess... Not only do related hybrids tend to look alike, there is variation within the cross as well so one could have two of the same parents that look different (just like kids in a family) so they'll still be be NOID.

[ArronOB]

For the two yellow ones, do a google search on ‘colmanara wildcat’, and choose the images tab.

[Selmo]

the two non-plals are IGH (intergeneric hybrids) that will be impossible to ID. these are oncidium type, but these crosses, can come from other genus mixed with other genus, they can be made from multiple parent crosses and a name will be a guess at best. look up Bllra. Marfitch Howards Dream 'witch doctor' for the first, and I have no idea on second, some thing with Milltonia in it. there is a web site that list all registered intergeneric crosses and what the parents are, but I cannot remember it now maybe some one can help with that.

[ArronOB]

Originally Posted by Selmo

there is a web site that list all registered intergeneric crosses and what the parents are, but I cannot remember it now maybe some one can help with that.

I think you mean OrchidRoots

[JScott]

That purple Oncidium intergeneric looks more like Beallara Patricia McCully than Marfitch to me, but they are quite similar, so it's hard to tell for sure.

[Kruegersc4]

Cool, thanks for the guesses and info. And yeah, I should know better than to think that any of these are a specific species considering I grow Nepenthes too and understand the way hybrids work there...

I already repotted the yellow intergenic (I've nicknamed it 'Bumblebee') a while ago, and it looks like the purple one is in peat moss so I'll repot it into bark and sphagnum once it's done flowering.