Stanhopea Noids

[Frdemetr]

Originally Posted by Mick Gooch

Try these, not the best but they may assist. There are two of each. The only real difference to untrained/ignorant is the blotching in the orange "pouch"

Mick, the new pic nº 3 makes more confusion...the epichyl looks like a Section Saccata epichyl (with three 'points'; Section Wardii epichiyl has one main ‘point’ in the middle), but I don't think the hipochyl belongs to Section Saccata (we can't see the 'sac', 'bag', the main feature of this Section), neither the horns, they seems too much thin...
I guess it is a ‘chimeric’ Stan (hybrid?), with hipochyl and horns from Section Wardii and epichyl from Section Saccata. Or a new species (?)

Take a look at these sites:
The Stanhopea Pages by Nina Rach, edited January 2008
Welcome to Stanhopea

Barney Greer wrote a fabulous book about Stanhopeas (The Astonishing Stanhopeas: The Upside-Down Orchids, 1998) and lives (or lived?) near Sydney, maybe you could try to contact him...

[Mick Gooch]

Thanks Fredrico ,

Very interesting info, moreso in the way you identify than the outcome - could well be a hybrid, I think I'll just call them Stan and Frederico and let them continue on their flowery way

Many thanks

Mick

[Undergrounder]

Originally Posted by Frdemetr

Mick, the new pic nº 3 makes more confusion...the epichyl looks like a Section Saccata epichyl (with three 'points'; Section Wardii epichiyl has one main ‘point’ in the middle), but I don't think the hipochyl belongs to Section Saccata (we can't see the 'sac', 'bag', the main feature of this Section), neither the horns, they seems too much thin...
I guess it is a ‘chimeric’ Stan (hybrid?), with hipochyl and horns from Section Wardii and epichyl from Section Saccata. Or a new species (?)

Take a look at these sites:
The Stanhopea Pages by Nina Rach, edited January 2008
Welcome to Stanhopea

Barney Greer wrote a fabulous book about Stanhopeas (The Astonishing Stanhopeas: The Upside-Down Orchids, 1998) and lives (or lived?) near Sydney, maybe you could try to contact him...

Hey Fredmetr, i don't know about Barney Greer himself, but i know that his collection is now in the hands of Conrad White who lives down the road from me in Sydney.

[Frdemetr]

Originally Posted by Undergrounder

Hey Fredmetr, i don't know about Barney Greer himself, but i know that his collection is now in the hands of Conrad White who lives down the road from me in Sydney.

Thanks, Under!

I guess Mr. Barney Greer is "retired from Stanhopeas", or something worse....
I searched for his 1998 adress in the web (102 Anzac Avenue, Collaroy Beach NSW 2097) and the house was "for sale" some time ago.
Anyway, "The Barney Greer Collection" is now on sale, and if I had a chance I buy several plants! Unfortunately Conrad White doesn't work with Credit Card, and the sending of living plants from Australia to Brazil would be extremely laborious (CITES etc.)

[Mike O'C]

Dorothy,
Many thanks for referring us to the Stanhopea page. However I looked at the photo of Stanhopea occulata and am not convinced that it is a Stanhopea occulata. The word "occulata" means eyes and Stanhopea occulata should have an "eye" on either side of the hypochile/mesochile.
Anybody else have any comments.
Keep well and kind regards
Mike

[Dorothy]

You are very welcome