ID my paphiopedilum!

[mexicowpants]

Pretty new to this alliance, so still on a pretty steep learning curve...
Got a couple of paph insigne last year, which haven't flowered for me this year, so when I saw these 2 plants with buttons at a knockdown price (from the same vendor), I snapped them up, thinking they were the same... But instead of the trademark spots of insigne, these are more striped.
One of them is still in button, and the other only just opening, so you'll have to excuse my big fat finger holding the top sepal open!


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[MrHappyRotter]

I'm not super familiar with this line of breeding, but my first thought is that there's quite a bit of spicerianum influence in that flower. It's definitely a hybrid of some sort, if I happen to see something similar, I'll try to check back with you.

[jkofferdahl]

I also thought of spicerianum as a contributor, but think this is a hybrid; as a hybrid with no label the chances of identifying it are small.

[PaphMadMan]

I agree the one flower is a hybrid and shows probable Paph spicerianum influence. Possibly some small insigne relative like Paph barbigerum or coccineum too. It will be easier to tell once it is fully open, but putting a definitive name on an NoID is unlikely.

I suspect the other is a more typical complex hybrid. For both of them - more pictures with fully open flowers, clear pictures of any spotting on leaf bases, and some measurements will help suggest possibilities.

[mexicowpants]

Cheers. I'll post a couple more photos in a couple of days.

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[mexicowpants]

Fully opened now 😊


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[Optimist]

or Paphiopedilum villosum var. annamense